Can this be taken off-list? I don't care either way, I'd still take his
points even if he wasn't.


On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Thomas Goirand <z...@debian.org> wrote:

> On 10/26/2013 09:17 PM, Olav Vitters wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 12:02:00AM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> >>> I'm fed up with repeated attempts to force components on the rest of
> the
> >>> system, but that's mostly a fault of Gnome's upstream
> >>
> >> There seems to be a trend emanating from packages involving RedHat devs.
> >> I actually went to the RedHat site a few weeks ago to try and get some
> >> sort of oversight on this but there seemed to be no appropriate contact
> >> point (bookmarked).
> >
> > There are various maintainers+developers who would love to see GNOME
> > support Wayland and nothing more. This due to code complexity and test
> > matrix (too many different options and it becomes difficult to test
> > things). And we do do continuous integration, plus I had to deal with
> > the bugs caused by the introduction of Wayland support.
> >
> > Various of above mentioned maintainers/developers are sponsored by Red
> > Hat. I say sponsored because they pretty much do what they think is
> > good. I have not seen any corporate agenda (I also fail to understand
> > why we have so many of them). Anyway, they just don't want code
> > complexity.
> >
> > The *main* reason that GNOME will keep Wayland + X compatibility for a
> > long time, thus introducing more bugs and slowing down full Wayland
> > support, is the same GNOME release team person who urged to support
> > Wayland. He's sponsored by Red Hat.
> >
> > In brief: The person mainly responsible for allowing people to rely on
> > our X support for a much longer time is one of those Red Hat people.
> >
> > Not sure if you like Wayland or not, but something to keep in mind, if
> > it wasn't up to this Red Hat person, X support would be die much more
> > quickly. And this decision is not made due to forcing, it is to due
> > supporting one thing well, not multiple things a bit with various
> > degrees of testing and buggyness.
>
> If you don't mind that I ask: are you a GNOME developer?
>
> Thomas
>
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