try ssh into a windows machine. the termcaps are all manner of fun. On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 7:23 AM Adam Borowski <kilob...@angband.pl> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 11:34:10AM +0500, Lev Lamberov wrote: > > Ср 18 мар 2020 @ 18:52 Adam Borowski <kilob...@angband.pl>: > > > > > Alas, our ed is basically: > > > #!/bin/sh > > > while read x;do echo '?';done > > > > That's not true. The ed package in the Debian archive is full GNU ed. > > I'm not talking about functionality under the hood, I'm bad-mouthing the > user-friendliness. > > I used to be an ed user for a decade (I've coded on a game that offered > only > a line-based interface), but that was Beattie ed which was _massively_ more > comfortable to use interactively than GNU ed (and probably way less > powerful). It was enough to bother with file transfers only for big edits. > > But that was a special case. Today, even on a bad serial link, all you > need > is a visual editor that does _not_ obey termcap/terminfo. In my > experience, > the 99% cause of breakage is: > * weird ancient Unices: bad termcappage > * Linux/BSD: wrong terminal size ("setterm --resize") > (ignoring termcap works because last non-vt100ish terminals were made ~40 > years ago) > > Thus, I can't think of a scenario where ed would be preferred over a visual > editor. If such scenario exists, it's too obscure for the default small > system. > > > Meow! > -- > ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ > ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ in the beginning was the boot and root floppies and they were good. > ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ -- <willmore> on #linux-sunxi > ⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀ > >