Jonas Smedegaard <[email protected]> writes: >> >> What I fail to see is how the messaging about Debian Libre suggests it >> >> is for "greater people", for your analogy to work. >> > >> > You want to label Debian-without-non-free-firmware as the pure one. >> > >> > But Debian-without-english-locale is also pure. >> > >> > And Debian-without-Qt and Debian-without-GTK are also pure. >> > >> > "Pure" is a broad term. "Junior" or "med" or "danish" or "GNOME" is not. >> >> I have not used the term "pure" to describe Debian Libre. > > Sorry, that was a brain fart of mine. Of course I meant "Libre" there. > >> I agree it is not useful to label Debian Libre more pure than anything >> else, if it leads to these concerns. > > Do you also agree it is not useful to label a single Debian Pure Blend > more "Libre" that anything else? Because as I understand it, that is > the very point that Gunnar was making and that I tried to examplify.
Debian Astro is more Astro-tailored than Debian. Debian Junior is more Junior-tailored than Debian. FreedomBox is more FreedomBox-tailored than Debian. "Debian Med" contains the "Med" stuff from Debian, but doesn't prevent the non-Med parts of Debian. "Debian Edu" contains the Edu-related stuff from Debian, but doesn't prevent the non-Edu stuff. FreedomBox contains the FreedomBox-related stuff from Debian, but doesn't prevent the non-FreedomBox stuff. Just to pick some existing Debian Pure Blends. Using the same comparison, Debian Libre is more Libre-tailored than Debian. And Debian Libre contains the Libre-related stuff from Debian, but doesn't prevent the non-libre stuff. Is the concern that some people find the word "Libre" offensive here? Do they also find the FreedomBox offensive? Isn't one point of the Debian Blends concept to offer minority tailored custom niche profiles of Debian? Establishing safe spaces for minority views is a sign of a healthy organization, and I think the Debian Blends concept has been successful in that. That said, if naming were the only concern, renaming a Debian Libre Pure Blends to something else is always a possibility. I think Debian Deblob was suggested. It seems the concerns are not limited with the name, though, but I hope we can iterate to gain acceptance. /Simon
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