On Mon, 03 Dec 2018, Jim Popovitch wrote:

> On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 22:05 +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> > On Mon, 03 Dec 2018, Jim Popovitch wrote:
> > 
> > > On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 21:38 +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> > > > I never got any patch of you for our anti spam measures, neither
> > > > do I
> > > > got something from Dave. 
> > > > 
> > > > Alex - Debian Listmaster
> > > 
> > > Patch?   I think you've identified the problem.
> > > 
> > > A start would be to tighten or remove any out-of-the box changes
> > > made to
> > > spamassassin. Let's be clear, your current setup only set a score of
> > > 2
> > > for an email that:
> > > 
> > > 1) contained a shortened URL
> > > 2) was From: a freemail address
> > > 3) fails SPF for outlook.it
> > > 4) contains blacklisted received headers (ZEN, PBL, Barraacuda)
> > > 5) promotes Instagram to a technical laptop discussion list.
> > > 
> > > That email should have scored at least a 5 or 6 in stock
> > > Spamassassin
> > > rules.
> > 
> > We can give it a try, just for this list. But tbh, you have really no
> > idea how much spam we catch.
> 
> That's good, and Thank you for that.
> 
> > > 
> > > Further, email headers show you have Amavis with a threshold score
> > > of 5.3 and Spamassasin with a threshold of 4.0.  Which one will
> > > "win"?
> > > 
> > > But really, you would be better served by just enabling some RBL
> > > checks in Spamassassin and getting rid of Amavis.
> > 
> > Getting rid of amavis wouldn't change anything. 
> > We would still call SA. 
> 
> Why involve Amavis then?  If it's not being used, then it's just another
> potential point of failure in the mail process.
it is used for several things, like a viruscanner, language specific
spamassassin sets and some other things. Removing it wouldn't get you better
SA results. 

Alex

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