Guys,

could you please just stop.
The verbal attack was not justified - and can not be justified,
even if there are/were some perceived problems.

Human history is dominated by unfair aggression, but again:
it does not and can not justify any aggression.

Much appreciation to Debian and Debian-list maintainers
for their dedicated and silent work - that we can use and 
enjoy their products! 
Many thanks,

imre


Jim Popovitch wrote on 2018/12/04 05:56:

> On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 22:33 -0500, Marvin Renich wrote:
>> Are you saying that because others have, in the past, resorted to
>> violence that it becomes justifiable?  
> 
> No, I'm saying lessons learned from History are to always be respected
> and not ignored.
> 
>> Over an offer to help that was sent to the wrong place and was thus
>> not answered?  
> 
> Context, it's always important.  The offerS have been given by several
> people, over several years, across several methods.  I know Dave, I have
> a reasonable idea of how Dave would have make his first, second, third,
> fourth, fifth, and sixth offers to help.  I can also imagine that it
> probably took Dave at least several years, of offering *free* help,
> before he blew a gasket at the continuance of a problem that he is very
> keenly aware of how to solve.  I, on a parallel plane, have been
> advocating for improvements, and complaining about the spam problem, for
> several years now too.  I'll make a prediction, nothing will improve and
> obvious spam will still leak through b.d.o.  At some point though,
> receivers will start blocking b.d.o, they do it now selectively for some
> servers in the large outbound server farms of Hotmail, Google, AOL,
> etc., what's Debian going to do when their single outbound b.d.o server
> ends up listed on a few DNSBLs?
> 
>> Sorry, that is just plain wrong.
> 
> Which part?  The part about context mattering?
> 
> -Jim P.
> 
> 

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