Guys,
could you please just stop. The verbal attack was not justified - and can not be justified, even if there are/were some perceived problems. Human history is dominated by unfair aggression, but again: it does not and can not justify any aggression. Much appreciation to Debian and Debian-list maintainers for their dedicated and silent work - that we can use and enjoy their products! Many thanks, imre Jim Popovitch wrote on 2018/12/04 05:56: > On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 22:33 -0500, Marvin Renich wrote: >> Are you saying that because others have, in the past, resorted to >> violence that it becomes justifiable? > > No, I'm saying lessons learned from History are to always be respected > and not ignored. > >> Over an offer to help that was sent to the wrong place and was thus >> not answered? > > Context, it's always important. The offerS have been given by several > people, over several years, across several methods. I know Dave, I have > a reasonable idea of how Dave would have make his first, second, third, > fourth, fifth, and sixth offers to help. I can also imagine that it > probably took Dave at least several years, of offering *free* help, > before he blew a gasket at the continuance of a problem that he is very > keenly aware of how to solve. I, on a parallel plane, have been > advocating for improvements, and complaining about the spam problem, for > several years now too. I'll make a prediction, nothing will improve and > obvious spam will still leak through b.d.o. At some point though, > receivers will start blocking b.d.o, they do it now selectively for some > servers in the large outbound server farms of Hotmail, Google, AOL, > etc., what's Debian going to do when their single outbound b.d.o server > ends up listed on a few DNSBLs? > >> Sorry, that is just plain wrong. > > Which part? The part about context mattering? > > -Jim P. > >