On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, MJ Ray wrote:
> -announce and -news are moderated lists. I think it's off-topic
> for -announce (not major news or very important announcement)

When you factor that this will affect just about every tier-1 Debian user
(i.e. those who deal with us directly for support), it is extremely
important.

I do mean unsubbing everyone from every mailing list, if you are going to do
this, you do it all the way, so as to archieve a full database refresh.

Unsubbing everyone just to find a backscatter problem is madness, the
problem won't go away unless it was there by accident, which looks quite
unlikely.  We could do it to *pause* the backscatter for a small while and
clean up the old cruft to lower the mailing list traffic (I'd guess at least
10% of the addresses will never join back).

> > * Do a big "spring/fall cleanup" and unsubscribe *everyone*, with due
> > advance notice of course. [...]
> 
> That may well not work, due to gateways, and will kick all
> innocent people off the list.

Such a cleanup is not targeted at anyone, is a full database
reinitialization.  Innocents are not the issue, since it targets everyone on
purpose.  OTOH, it is rarely worth the trouble as it is a major pain in the
neck for everybody.

-- 
  "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique Holschuh


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