>>>>> "Olek" == Olek Wojnar <o...@debian.org> writes:
> TL;DR: While there may be improvements to be found in a > completely different approach to identity, let us not let the > scope of the discussion broaden that far, so we can make > progress today. Olek> I respectful disagree on this point. This conversation Olek> started with a question about how to verify identity without Olek> in-person interaction. The reason a number of people have Olek> seemingly broadened the scope (from my perspective, I clearly Olek> don't know people's actual motivations) is because that is the Olek> deeper question behind the original query. Until you have a concrete suggestion, you're derailing the discussion. Enrico and a number of people sound like they would like a way forward that works for people trying to become DMs today. When I hear things like "eventually have a GR," that's on an entirely different scope than they are asking about. It's possible no short-term solutions will emerge. And I don't mind people exploring longer-term things. What I mind a great deal is our tendency to suck every discussion into such a long-term thing that it immobilizes us. You are adding stop energy: you've broadened the scope to a question that you then say you cannot answer. Sometimes that is necessary; some ideas need to be stopped. I disagree that processing DMs today is such an idea.