On Sun, Aug 09, 2020 at 08:51:30AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > It sounds like you are hearing me as disagreeing with *you* and not with > some combination of your ideas and how they are presented. > I'd like to offer to sit down virtually and work through this. > I don't want to come across as hostile, and I hope that we would both > choose to avoid frustration or worse building between us. > > However my experience is that mailing lists are not the best media for > working through things when perceptions of hostility get involved. > If you'd be open I propose that we get together on IRC or phone (with a > third party if that would make you feel more comfortable) and see if we > can work to a place where you feel valued, even if we don't get to a > place where we are in agreement on everything. > After I'd be happy to come back to the list, express any regrets and > summarize what I've learned about how to approach this situation without > creating negative feelings. > > If you are open to this, let's coordinate a time off-list.
Sam, you accused Olek of derailing the situation, which (AFAICS) he disagrees with, and now you are "offering" to solve this problem by Olek investing more time to solve a problem that doesnt also in my book doesnt exist. btw, I could also say you Sam are derailing Enricos thread as well, voila. Olek replied how/when keysigning is important to them, with a concrete use-case (sponsoring uploads), which IMO is a very fine use case of key signing and I am puzzled about your response of cornering into counceling his behaviour. -- cheers, Holger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- holger@(debian|reproducible-builds|layer-acht).org PGP fingerprint: B8BF 5413 7B09 D35C F026 FE9D 091A B856 069A AA1C There are no jobs on a dead planet.
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