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Vineet Kumar said: > Vineet> The beauty of our system is that it is run by the > Vineet> community, and that it is free to be changed. He did what he > Vineet> could to improve Debian rather than just walking away from > Vineet> it. > The "Debian Community" is those people who actually contribute to it. Not necessarily just by maintaining packages but by at least advocating or donating money or *something* tangible. Others are free to to use it but they have no right to demand anything. A maintainer or other contributor may deign to follow their requests or they may not. If someone really wants to "improve" Debian (including improving it by removing parts,) and can't convince another to do it, they have to be prepared to do the work of maintaining their own fork or to shut up. Manoj Srivastava wrote: > And it is my right to fight tooth and nail to prevent debian > from sliding into censorship, since that makes debian worse. > While all this bickering was going on, the maintainer did actually remove the offensive bit. So the censorship has already occurred. If Manoj is serious about "fighting tooth and nail" (and not just trying to score debating points as I suspect,) he has the same choice convince the maintainer, fork the package or shut up. > After all, I tolerate the bible, and the dhamapada. And such > superstition is far more insidious than racism. > The really insidious thing about these debates is the vapid philosophizing that goes on... My view is very simple. There are no facts in such cases just subjective opinions so the subjective opinion of he who does the work is the only one that counts. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It's a girl! See the pictures - http://www.braincells.com/shailaja/