Digby Tarvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 10:55:00AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > Digby Tarvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > For example, if the licensing restrictions on the downloadable firmware > > > for > > > a particular network adapter prevent it from being included on the install > > > CD, then perhaps the install CD can be made to look for additional > > > software > > > on a USB pen that can be used by the installer to provide license > > > restricted > > > software. Or perhaps we can find a way to make it easier for people to > > > avoid buying hardware that relies on license restricted software in the > > > first place. > > > > IMHO, just as Joey Hess pointed out (in his missing post), there are > > lots of efforts going into this direction. Just install msttcorefonts > > and you'll know what I'm talking about. I just can't get easier than > > that. You apt-get the package and the install scripts will download all > > the font files and install them for you. You won't notice the > > difference unless you watch apt's output. > > Ah yes, but the problem is - how do I apt-get the network adapter > firmware mentioned in the example above when > a) the network doesn't work because it needs the firmware, and > b) Debian is not installed yet, because the installer needs the network... > > Again for those that missed it - I am entirely happy with the method for > installing license restricted packages using alternate repositories > after a Debian system has been successfully installed on the hardware...
Sorry, I missed that, but see below. > My comments above (and the initial comments comparing Debian and Ubuntu) > were specifically addressing ease of getting an initial working system > installed. > > Or have I misunderstood what you are saying in some way? > > I suspect that there are more misunderstandings of what people are saying > than actual disagreements in this thread... Exactly. I can now understand Joey Hess's frustration about his message. Let me quote: [quote] Some, like the ndiswrapper, are even in Debian proper. It should be even easier to integrate such drivers into the installer. For example all that needs doing for ndiswrapper is: 1) Someone doing the work to keep ndiswrapper kernel modules in Debian up-to-date with the current version of the kernel in Debian, which is not currently being done. 2) Someone writing the necessary code to let the installer prompt or a windows driver CD, pull the windows drivers off it and feed them to ndiswrapper. (I'll tell you what: someone take care of #1, and I'll do #2.) [end quote] Or are you talking about more complicated cases? Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]