On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 22:20 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> On 8/21/13, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 13:38 +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote:
> >> Essentially, you have a chicken and egg problem.
> >
> > Wrong!
> 
> Subtle!
> 
> > Keys usually are available by a keyserver you could trust, so for the
> > first time you'll get the key this way. Such a package will update keys
> > as long as the older keys still can be used.
> 
> This makes sense, but aren't you just pushing the "chicken or egg"
> problem to the keyserver?
> 
> Ie, how do you trust the keyserver?
> 
> If this 'problem' were not the case, then why does not the packages
> pre-depends on -keyring, and automatically install it first, without
> any security problems, and without any warning to user?
> 
> Surely if this were possible, that's what would be done?

If you download the key from the keyserver, than you'll only get a key.

If you download the package with the key or keys, than you'll get a
package. On the data highway on the Internet, from the server to you,
the package might get corrupted and perhaps doesn't include a key, but
malicious software.

So getting a key from a keyserfer first IMO is safer.


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