Hi Stephen, Have you been eagerly anticipating my reply to your hardware thread? I hope I don't disappoint. :)
On 12/14/2013 7:23 AM, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 02:39:04 -0500 (EST), David Christensen wrote: ... >>> I'd like it to have a usable CSM, so I can continue to run my favorite boot >>> loader, LILO. >> >> CSM = IBM Cluster Systems Management? > > No, CSM = Compatibility Support Module, a feature of UEFI-compliant > motherboards that provides a PC-compatible BIOS for booting legacy > BIOS operating systems, such as the LILO boot loader. This is incompatible > with Connected Standby Mode, whose initials are also, unfortunately, CSM. > Connected Standby Mode is apparently a requirement for Windows 8 > certification. > Connected Standby Mode must be disabled in order for a Compatibility Support > Module to be enabled. There is no need for CSM if you purchase a fairly modern board yet designed prior to the UEFI revolution. Here is a complete list of quality DIY parts that will meet your stated needs, including a non-UEFI motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P(rev 5.0) AM3+ AMD 760G/SB710, AMD 3000 GPU, DVI AMD FX-4300 3.8GHz quad core CPU, 2x 2MB L2 cache, 4MB L3 cache 2x 4GB DDR3-1333 Crucial DDR-SDRAM modules Samsung 840 EVO 120GB SSD - #1 SSD in quality, performance, and $/GB ASUS DVD - it's DVD to boot a net install image, if needed, decent unit Apevia mATX cube case, 500W PSU, excellent airflow, I own one, good case Hewlett Packard 23" Widescreen HD monitor, 1920x1080, DVI $ 52 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128504 $110 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113287 $ 60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148347 $ 90 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147247 $ 19 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135304 $ 87 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811144140 $120 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824176250 $538 Total Upon totaling this I'm really surprised such a quality, high performance machine with a good 23" LCD can be had for less than $550, especially with a Samsung 120GB SSD. Some of the prices above are holiday specials. I didn't check the normal prices. So if you like this combo you may want to check the expiry dates on the specials and order beforehand. I verified the FX-4300 should work in this board so you should have no surprises. You may need to flash it so the BIOS identifies the CPU correctly, but the board should boot and work fine even without doing so. See: http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?v=AE72F6F9D4ADD0D7995989AF720CB4D0FF2976CBFB7DB4DE70BB3E832BEDD48D&s=Socket%20AM3+&cs=AMD%20760G FYI, I searched for more than an hour trying to find an AMD dual core CPU plus mobo combo that would be suitable. I ran into two problems here. First, all of the current dual core AMD CPUs lack L3 cache and have somewhat tiny 1MB L2 caches. As with virtual machines, emulation workloads tend to perform better with larger caches due to context switches, TLB shootdowns, etc. So this model FX-4300 with 1MB L2 per core and 4MB shared L3 should perform better for you, even if you can't make use of all 4 cores immediately. Everyone else buying 4/6/8 core desktop CPUs is in the same boat, whether they know it or not, so don't sweat it. The industry has decided to take the multi-core path which users simply cannot yet follow, because most developers aren't yet threading their applications. Second, all of the socket FM2 motherboards which take the dual core chips are built/certified for Windows 8, and have UEFI BIOS. Again this mobo is non-UEFI, so I think this combo will be a better solution for you all around Stephen. Motherboard manual to read before you buy (I always do): http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/Manual/mb_manual_ga-78lmt-s2p_v.5.0_e.pdf I hope this is the type of complete, concise information, recommendation, you were looking for Stephen. -- Stan TheHardwareFreak -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52adbd13.9060...@hardwarefreak.com