On Monday 19 January 2015 01:24:35 Mart van de Wege did opine And Gene did reply: > Gene Heskett <ghesk...@wdtv.com> writes: > > On Sunday 18 January 2015 18:21:02 Mart van de Wege did opine > > > > And Gene did reply: > >> Gene Heskett <ghesk...@wdtv.com> writes: > >> > On Sunday 18 January 2015 14:12:03 Joe did opine > >> > > >> >> I don't have Gnome on the workstation either, but > >> >> I do have various Gnome bits such as Nautilus. It really should > >> >> be possible to avoid NM, but probably not without some effort. > >> > > >> > Using information that it seems to me, is deliberately withheld > >> > from the user. Or I have not learned in 80 years, how to ask the > >> > right question.. > >> > >> apt-get remove network-manager seems to work just fine for me. > >> > >> Mart > > > > I have attempted that, several times in the past 5 or 6 years. The > > list of stuff it will also remove is usually several printed pages, > > IF you could actually get a printout. > > Eh, no? > > mvdwege@gaheris:~$ apt-cache rdepends network-manager | wc -l > 40 > > And that includes all packages for which nm is a dependency, not just > a hard Depends: *and* i386 packages (I run multi-arch). > > And note that that this is an rdepends search. I have only 4 of those > 40 packages installed (and 2 of those only by accident). > > And taking a look at the list, there's a lot of non-essential stuff on > there. About the only thing I'd consider anything near 'essential' is > evolution, and that is only a Suggests: dependency. > > > Unfortunately, you can't even copy/paste for a record from that > > screen by any method but a screen snapshot series. > > What is so difficult about 'select text, middle button paste'?
Thats on a pulldown somewhere? I am used to mouse highliting it, but the subsequent paste is always empty. > I really wanted to cut you some slack, but I am forced to conclude that > your problem is between the chair and the keyboard. And historical as I was using synaptic. I just tried your cli based call above, it listed only 10 packages, none of which were important to me, or used that I am aware of, and 3 of those were duplicates. So I did an apt-get remove. I still have a network, yaayyyy! This install came with a custom rtai patched, non-pae kernel, based on ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS(Lucid) but as there is not any machinery attached to this machine, I have found that a 3.16.0 SMT kernel with 32 PAE is quite sufficient to run the simulator version when developing gcode for the real machinery. The mode is rt-prempt. But regardless of the kernel, the simulated version will not run on wheezy. But another experiment was to install a 64 bit kernel based on 3.4-9-amd64. That ran everything, faster and smoother than this machine has ever run before. So I may see if I can build the amd64 version of this 3.16.0. Separate project from this though. But that leads to the next logical question: What's the difference between using apt-get to do that, and synaptic? Synaptic would have literally torn down the system, removing libc6, most of build-essentials among many many others. I like synaptic, but that difference is an eye opener for sure. > Mart Thanks Mart. Now I know how to cure that headache. And will do exactly that on my next install. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201501190454.57501.ghesk...@wdtv.com