On Monday 30 March 2015 23:36:02 David Wright wrote:
> > > Now I know that you like testing your printers with real 80 page
> > > jobs,
> >
> > Your exhuberant guess is approximately 1800 pages short. There are
> > almost 1900 pages of LinuxCNC manuals.
>
> I was within 10% of the 88 page jobs you appeared to be using to test
> duplex printing ("so I now have 4 copies of an 88 page manual, printed
> single sided") reported in
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/02/msg00880.htmlThat was when I was trying to print the nut docs so I could get it working on debian, which it now is, although I had to put the third set of batteries in it since I bought it quit a few years back. > > New shell IOW. > > Not in my experience: neither "$ bash" nor "$ bash -l" pick up new > groups on my system, whereas "$ /bin/su myself" does. I have not done a real 100% audit of that, but for $PATH changes, I know that just works when a new terminal is launched. The other stuff? Mostly unk. > > My linux usage dates to the winter of 1997-98. Yours? > > I'm not certain where we're going with this. I certainly don't claim > any authority or wisdom from longevity of experience. I don't have a > fraction of the knowledge and expertise of many people here. > > But FWIW I started playing with linux in 1995 with slackware, using > the umsdos filesystem so that it could share the 500MB disk with MSDOS > 6.22 and W3.1 on a 486 with 8MB memory. I was fascinated by the way > the filesystem turned itself "inside out" when linux booted. X was > hopeless as it would just crash. But I was really just learning some > commands ready for when the Open University migrated from Vaxen to > unix, because my background was IBM1130, 360, 370 (mitigated by the > Cambridge Phoenix system), DEC-20 and VMS. > > Getting a 133MHz 32MB Pentium with a 2GB disk in October 1996, I moved > to Debian (which wouldn't play with umsdos). This back in the days > when kindly people on this list would roll you a SCSI kernel over the > weekend (thank you, Martin) and Linus was still CCing here. So I just > missed the Debian 1.0 debacle, and started with buzz (1.1). Difficult > to believe it installed from 1+1+3 floppies. Chuckle, yes, I have "rolled my own" on probably 100+ occassions. They usually work. :) > When rex arrived in December, I got stuck because I had a dozen > partitions on my disk and rex only had sda1 through sda8. But > soldiering on, Alessandro Rubini's book on Device Drivers came out > just in time for me to write my first module in 1998. I have that book I believe, not been cracked is a while though. > Unlike you, I > didn't have the nightmare of linuxcnc-type stuff because that was > offloaded onto an MC1401 chip through my device driver. But I gave up > all that hairy stuff in 2004 when I retired the first time. My last > custom kernel was with lenny. So jessie is my 13th Debian version. I've been all over the place for distros. But with that sort of a record, you ought to be pretty close to my age, 80. I've often claimed I was a geek before the word was invented. As a child, I had an unusual mother, she was the only girl in the 1929 class on aviation technology at Des Moines Technical high school. If she didn't know the answers to a little boys physics related questions, she did know where the library was. So I was reading some pretty advanced stuff by the end of the third grade. Been at the right place at the right time to get in on some state of the art projects. The tv cameras on the Trieste when it, Lt Walsh and Jacques Coustou went down in the mohole, 37+ thousand feet in the pacific were partially assembed by me. Very primitive by todays stds, but they did work. Picked up a 1st Phone in '62 w/o cracking a book, got a job at a tv station in '64 and stayed in broadcast engineering till the end, did the same in '72 for a CET. Wrote my first program in '78 on an rca 1802, looking up the hex values in the programmers manual and entering them via a hex monitor of a Cosmac Super Elf. 15 years later that station was still using it. So my history might impress some of the frogs, but its certainly "eclectic". :) But now I've been retired for going on 13 years, and like McArther after Truman fired him, slowly fading away. So I'll quit boring the rest of the list, and just say touche`. > Cheers, > David. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201503310029.52588.ghesk...@wdtv.com
