On Sunday 13 September 2015 16:40:00 Brian wrote:
> On Sun 13 Sep 2015 at 01:04:27 +0000, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> > On 2015-09-12, Brian <a...@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
> > > On Sat 12 Sep 2015 at 20:21:40 +0000, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> > >> On 2015-09-11, Paul van der Vlis <p...@vandervlis.nl> wrote:
> > >> > Op 09-09-15 om 23:43 schreef Liam O'Toole:
> > >> >> I've been using Flash from deb-multimedia for years without issue
> > >> >> (on stable releases, I grant you). I use the following pinning:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Package: *
> > >> >> Pin: release o=Unofficial Multimedia Packages
> > >> >> Pin-Priority: 100
> > >> >
> > >> > I don't know what this is doing, do you?
> > >>
> > >> Yes. When a package is available in both debian and deb-multimedia,
> > >> the former is always preferred.
> > >
> > > Except when you use "Flash from deb-multimedia for years".
> >
> > I don't follow. Could you please explain?
>
> I was pointing out the apparent contradiction in advising the Debian
> archives over the deb-multimedia ones and not taking it yourself. It
> was not really that important to mention. :)
>
> > >> > I think you will have many packages on your system what are coming
> > >> > from deb-multimedia. Maybe that's what you want, no idea.
> > >>
> > >> Not so. See above.
> > >>
> > >> > I think the people from deb-multimedia are doing their best to make
> > >> > good packages. But I think Debian is too complex to mix with a repo
> > >> > like deb-multimedia with many packages. Maybe you don't have
> > >> > problems with flash, but I think your system is not "rock solid"
> > >> > anymore. And what does deb-multimedia bring you for that?
> > >>
> > >> The system is no longer 'rock solid' as soon as you install any
> > >> third-party software, be it via flashplayer-mozilla or
> > >> flashplugin-nonfree or anything else.
> > >
> > > Both packages use the same source from Adobe. Why specifically should
> > > one be less solid than the other when it comes to watching flash video?
> >
> > The point I was trying to make above neither is no more or less 'rock
> > solid' than the other.
>
> It still disturbs me a little that Lisi's machine doesn't play 4od with
> HAL and flashplugin-nonfree. At

I need to try some time on a fresh install, Brian.  For now, I still can't 
watch 4oD on my TV with an attached Jessie computer, so that comes next.

But I have never not had HAL (Trinity before 14 requires it) so I have my 
doubts.

Lisi
>
>   https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/09/msg00444.html
>
> there is
>
>    All the ones you mention plus hal-trinity.   But so has my husband's
> computer. He has only the one libflashplayer.so, the mozilla one.
>
>    I, on the other hand, have three:
>    /home/lisi/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
>    /usr/lib/flashplayer-mozilla/libflashplayer.so
>    /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
>
> The second line is ok but the third line should show
>
>   /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flash-mozilla.so
>
> as a symlink to /etc/alternatives/flash-mozilla.so.
>
> I think libflashplayer.so in $HOME takes precedence over the alternatives
> system. 'ls -l' might indicate which package provides it.

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