Op 12-09-15 om 22:21 schreef Liam O'Toole: > On 2015-09-11, Paul van der Vlis <p...@vandervlis.nl> wrote: >> Op 09-09-15 om 23:43 schreef Liam O'Toole: >>> On 2015-09-09, Paul van der Vlis <p...@vandervlis.nl> wrote: >>>> Op 09-09-15 om 12:20 schreef Liam O'Toole: >>>> >>>>> If you use flashplayer-mozilla from deb-multimedia, then you get updates >>>>> automatically. >>>> >>>> When you use cron, you get updates automatically too. See my other post. >>> >>> I saw that, thanks. I prefer to manage updates through APT. Each to his >>> own. >> >> You prefer to get updates from a place, what gave many problems in the past. >> >>>>> Conflicts are avoided by pinning the deb-multimedia repository. >>>> >>>> I think this is complex to do right. >>>> >>>> My experience: deb-multimedia in sources.list gives problems. >>>> See: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/FAQ#Common_issues >>>> >>>> When I need a package from deb-multimedia, I use wget and dpkg. >>> >>> I've been using Flash from deb-multimedia for years without issue (on >>> stable releases, I grant you). I use the following pinning: >>> >>> Package: * >>> Pin: release o=Unofficial Multimedia Packages >>> Pin-Priority: 100 >> >> I don't know what this is doing, do you? > > Yes. When a package is available in both debian and deb-multimedia, the > former is always preferred.
And when an update of a package depends on a package what's newer then what's available in Debian? >> I think you will have many packages on your system what are coming from >> deb-multimedia. Maybe that's what you want, no idea. > > Not so. See above. Nice to hear. But they can do it if they want, or when they make a mistake. I guess. >> I think the people from deb-multimedia are doing their best to make good >> packages. But I think Debian is too complex to mix with a repo like >> deb-multimedia with many packages. Maybe you don't have problems with >> flash, but I think your system is not "rock solid" anymore. >> And what does deb-multimedia bring you for that? > > The system is no longer 'rock solid' as soon as you install any > third-party software, be it via flashplayer-mozilla or > flashplugin-nonfree or anything else. The packages in Debian are good tested with eachother. I don't think the packages in deb-multimedia are tested that good. And Debian can change things what gives problems with deb-multimedia. I've used deb-multimedia in the past, but I don't do it anymore. The only package what I miss sometimes is libdvdcss2. But maybe there is interesting software there what I don't know. And yes, maybe flashplayer-mozilla is a little bit better then flashplugin-nonfree. But I found a good workarround for updating. And most of my customers don't use a flashplugin anymore. Only people who want to look TV on the computer, or who want to play flash-games have problems. For listening radio are good alternatives available. Video-sites are working most of the time good with HTML5. With regards, Paul van der Vlis. -- Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer Groningen https://www.vandervlis.nl/