On Sat 29 Oct 2016 at 21:51:48 +0300, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 19:54:27 +0200 > deloptes <delop...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Reco wrote: > > > > > So basically you're proposing to force the user to install GTK3 (with > > > both C and C++ bindinds) just to install pulseaudio. > > > > > > There are reasons that this distribution is called Debian, not > > > You-favorite-enterprisey-tangled-dependency-mess, and one of those > > > reasons is a careful placement of dependencies. > > > > > > Reco > > > > Ric didn't say he proposes. He said "I think" which is personal opinion. I > > think nowdays it is getting a big problem understanding each other and I > > think it is sad, because we are misinterpreting what the other say which is > > equivalent to not hearing. > > My apologies to Ric, you and any other maillist participant just in > case.
A sentence beginning "I think you should....." is practically equivalent to "I propose you should......". So Ric did propose something. Proposing or thinking is always a personal opinion. You shouldn't have backed down. > Still, I've seen where this road can take a perfectly good package. > > First example being openjdk-7-jre-headless. After a certain DSA update > about a year ago it started to depend on libpulse0 (because reasons, > apparently), and boom - a *headless* java install bring about one third > of X with it. Kind of depends the whole purpose of package from a > certain perspective - as package description explicitly refers 'non GUI > Java programs'. > > Second example being libvirt-daemon-system, introduced in jessie, which > started to depend on policykit-1, because (see #768376) from > the POV of the maintainer of the package - absolutely nobody (bug > report states 95% actually) uses libvirt without virt-manager, and > virt-manager breaks somehow without PolicyKit. > > Oh, and don't get me started on the way they package hplip. Please do. What is wrong with the packaging of hplip? -- Brian.
