Hi. On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 04:06:33PM +0100, Hans wrote: > Hi folks, > > since some time the names for network devices have changed. So its is no more > "ethX" , but "enp1s10" or similar or "wlan0" and now "wlp5s0". You know, what > I mean.
Yep, so called Unpredicable Device Names. > This is made by the kernel. No, this is done by udev. It can be disabled, it can be configured, and it can be left as is. > However, I discovered many packages, where are still the old names > preconfigured with the old names. Some examples are in order. > I think, this may be led to confusion, so let > me offer some suggestions: > > - during installation there should be an advice, to check the name of the > interface File a "wishlist" bug report against an appropriate package. > - interface entries should be generally commented, so that the user has > forcedly to check the entry Most of the server-side packages that I can think of are either bind to all available interfaces by default, or bind to lo, which is still here. > I know, the last one might be problematic, because the developer never can > know, whhich interface is used (eth0? eth1? wlan0? whatever) Or, for instance, en0p2gibberish. They call them Unpredictable Device Named for a reason. > For myself I got the solution: just edited all configs to the new names, but > I > believe, for unexperienced users, this could be problematic. So-called "unexperienced" users should not meddle in servers' configuration in the first place. And NIC configuration is hardly relevant for a typical desktop. > And I also believe, an unexperienced user gets in trouble, when nobody > points him, where to look. I don't know about that. I mean, you wrote here, isn't it? Nobody's stopping this hypothetical "unexperienced" users to do the same. > You do not need to look for a solution for me, I just wanted to remember this > thing and hope, we should keep this little problem in mind. Maybe this is > worth a discussion, if not, please excuse the noise. That's OK. It's Friday and it's been an eventful week, so a list can use a flamewar. Reco