On Fri 02 Aug 2019 at 22:41:00 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 01 August 2019 16:58:46 Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 01 August 2019 10:20:57 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > On Jo, 01 aug 19, 06:28:17, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > Debian-arm netinstall on a pi3b; > > > > > > > > No root pw set, I am housebroken to using sudo now. > > > > > > > > netinstall didn't install x anything although I thought I was > > > > selecting xfce4, so my first action on the reboot was to > > > > "sudo apt install xfce4". reboot, works, have x and 4 workspaces. > > > > > > > > Then "sudo apt install build-essential and buildbot, cups". > > > > reboot, worked once, login normal. Then I plugged in a 120GB ssd > > > > which had a bunch of src stuff on it I'll need later and powered > > > > up again. Can't login, passwd no good. Dbl check, caps lock off, > > > > try again several times, passwd no good. > > > > > > Maybe the SSD is drawing just enough additional current to mess with > > > your keyboard. As already suggested, you could try removing it. > > > > Its a 5 amp switcher. > > > > > Also, since you're not worried about security you could try typing > > > your password in the username field, to make sure the keyboard works > > > as expected. Just don't press enter so the password is not logged ;) > > > > I've done that too, its displaying exactly what I typed. > > And I am being ignored. So here is a thought.
Well, I didn't realise you were using a DM to login when I wrote my first reply. As with the SSD, I would have you revert from a DM to an ordinary VC login. But I know so little about DEs that I don't know if that's possible. What does a DM buy you? > Someone has recently mentioned a new method of encrypting passwds. Is it > possible that something in xfce4 has changed to the new method, but the > passwd in the passwd file was encrypted with the older method, and that > an ssh login is still useing the old method, so I can login remotely > only? So possibly it might be fixed by an apt update/upgrade? Unforch, > there is nothing to upgrade: AIUI passwords are not encrypted, they're hashed. > copy/paste from a konsole logged into it. > > gene@picnc:~$ sudo apt update > [sudo] password for gene: > Get:1 http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates InRelease > [39.1 kB] > Hit:2 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster InRelease > Get:3 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates InRelease [46.8 kB] > Get:4 http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates/main > Sources [25.9 kB] > Get:5 http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates/main > arm64 Packages [51.5 kB] > Get:6 http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates/main > Translation-en [28.9 kB] > Fetched 192 kB in 2s (81.9 kB/s) > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > All packages are up to date. > gene@picnc:~$ > > But is that the proper list of repo's to query? Posting your sources.list would be more typical. > Or maybe its ssh thats using the new way, and xfce4 has not caught up. I > haven't a clue whats changed, but it did work several times, then > stopped. Completely changing my passwd from this ssh login worked, I > backed out and tried it, worked as expected from ssh, but is still > rejected from its own keyboard, so I changed it back. ?? What library > does that? Is there a version jump that arm did, but got miss installed? ssh has -v (up to 3 times) for monitoring its behaviour. But are you're sure you're not thinking of something like LUKS1/LUKS2 rather than any change in passwd hashing (which might be why you wrote "encrypting"). Cheers, David.