On Saturday 03 August 2019 10:03:18 David Wright wrote: > On Fri 02 Aug 2019 at 22:41:00 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 01 August 2019 16:58:46 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Thursday 01 August 2019 10:20:57 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > On Jo, 01 aug 19, 06:28:17, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > Debian-arm netinstall on a pi3b; > > > > > > > > > > No root pw set, I am housebroken to using sudo now. > > > > > > > > > > netinstall didn't install x anything although I thought I was > > > > > selecting xfce4, so my first action on the reboot was to > > > > > "sudo apt install xfce4". reboot, works, have x and 4 > > > > > workspaces. > > > > > > > > > > Then "sudo apt install build-essential and buildbot, cups". > > > > > reboot, worked once, login normal. Then I plugged in a 120GB > > > > > ssd which had a bunch of src stuff on it I'll need later and > > > > > powered up again. Can't login, passwd no good. Dbl check, > > > > > caps lock off, try again several times, passwd no good. > > > > > > > > Maybe the SSD is drawing just enough additional current to mess > > > > with your keyboard. As already suggested, you could try removing > > > > it. > > > > > > Its a 5 amp switcher. > > > > > > > Also, since you're not worried about security you could try > > > > typing your password in the username field, to make sure the > > > > keyboard works as expected. Just don't press enter so the > > > > password is not logged ;) > > > > > > I've done that too, its displaying exactly what I typed. > > > > And I am being ignored. So here is a thought. > > Well, I didn't realise you were using a DM to login when I wrote my > first reply. As with the SSD, I would have you revert from a DM to > an ordinary VC login. But I know so little about DEs that I don't > know if that's possible. What does a DM buy you? > A nice gui with lots of workspaces. Menu's to run stuff. > > Someone has recently mentioned a new method of encrypting passwds. > > Is it possible that something in xfce4 has changed to the new > > method, but the passwd in the passwd file was encrypted with the > > older method, and that an ssh login is still useing the old method, > > so I can login remotely only? So possibly it might be fixed by an > > apt update/upgrade? Unforch, there is nothing to upgrade: > > AIUI passwords are not encrypted, they're hashed. And apparently each hash is unique? I've checked 4 machines here, and the shadow files entry for me is different on all 4 machines.
> > copy/paste from a konsole logged into it. > > > > gene@picnc:~$ sudo apt update > > [sudo] password for gene: > > Get:1 http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates > > InRelease [39.1 kB] > > Hit:2 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster InRelease > > Get:3 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates InRelease [46.8 > > kB] Get:4 http://security.debian.org/debian-security > > buster/updates/main Sources [25.9 kB] > > Get:5 http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates/main > > arm64 Packages [51.5 kB] > > Get:6 http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates/main > > Translation-en [28.9 kB] > > Fetched 192 kB in 2s (81.9 kB/s) > > Reading package lists... Done > > Building dependency tree > > Reading state information... Done > > All packages are up to date. > > gene@picnc:~$ > > > > But is that the proper list of repo's to query? > > Posting your sources.list would be more typical. but much more difficult to copy and chown to get it in the rights for kmail-trinity to attach or include. I have to copy them to someplace neutral, chown the perms, as my sshnet runs as me, specifically denies root, so once I can copy it across the cat5 to someplace in /home/gene on this machine, then I can attach or include it. > > Or maybe its ssh thats using the new way, and xfce4 has not caught > > up. I haven't a clue whats changed, but it did work several times, > > then stopped. Completely changing my passwd from this ssh login > > worked, I backed out and tried it, worked as expected from ssh, but > > is still rejected from its own keyboard, so I changed it back. ?? > > What library does that? Is there a version jump that arm did, but > > got miss installed? > > ssh has -v (up to 3 times) for monitoring its behaviour. > > But are you're sure you're not thinking of something like LUKS1/LUKS2 > rather than any change in passwd hashing (which might be why you wrote > "encrypting"). Never touched LUKS, any version. > Cheers, > David. Cheers David, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>