>> > I'll stick with Signal for now, at least it's something that I can 
>> > confidently recommend to people as "WhatsApp, but really 
>> > secure/private".
>> I guess it's a bit more secure/private than whatsapp because you can see
>> the code of the client, but AFAICT it's still just as centralized :-(
> Since it's end-to-end encrypted I fail to see what major benefit 
> federation would bring for one-to-one communication and small private 
> groups.

WhatsApp is also (presumably!) end-to-end encrypted, so that's not the
only problem with it.

The problem is also the metadata: it still leaves a centralized record
of who sent what size of message to whom at what time and from which
IP address.

Hopefully they throw this information away ASAP, but I have no reason to
presume that they do (e.g. even if they do intend to, someone hacking their
server could collect that information without their knowledge).


        Stefan

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