This one time, at band camp, Robert Millan said:
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 04:32:08PM +0000, Stephen Gran wrote:
> > > 
> > > It often can, though.  You can't really tell if the firmware for your 
> > > network
> > > card is using DMA to send away your private data in unaccounted frames.
> > 
> > Of course you can.  Adding paranoid fantasies to the debate doesn't
> > really help much.
> 
> Can you?  Would you explain how?  (and no, "I run wireshark in my gateway and
> dig through several GiBs of data" doesn't really tell me anything)

Disregarding standard diagnostic tools doesn't really add to your
credibility in this.
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