On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 14:09, Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Sandro Tosi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 13:41, Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > "Sandro Tosi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 10:34, Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > Jacob Hallén <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> >> Debian is not 100% free software, and it never has been. >> >> > >> >> > Indeed. Those instances where it's not free are bugs to be >> >> > fixed. >> >> >> >> So, you actually wanna do something to fix those bugs or wanna >> >> simply talk about them? >> > >> > That's a false dichotomy. The talk in this context is regarding >> > whether they are DFSG violations at all. >> >> Really? so can you please show us what you've done to fix them? > > You seem to have missed what I said: In order to have *anyone* fix > them, they need to be acknowledged as DFSG violations. That's what is > being discussed: whether certain freedoms are or are not DFSG > violations (and therefore bugs).
"anyone" contains you too... > Demanding credentials from me personally doesn't seem to be addressing > the point. Really? you didn't explain why; what I'm asking is what you did to fix the bugs you believe to violate your interpretation of DFSG. That's my point (dunno what you understood) >> You're discussing docs for a project you're NOT part of > > Does that change whether what I say is true or false? > > As it happens I am a part of the Debian project. But that shouldn't sure, as an external resource, like many other (and we are very thankful for that!). > matter, and I'll ask you to kindly stop attacking people instead of > arguments. is this your argumentation? >> and you're proposing resolutions/suggestions you can NOT even vote >> for or against; I can't see the point. > > The point is to encourage rational discussion of fact and principle, > and discourage false arguments, about a resolution to the foundational > documents of the project. Documents whose promise I very much want > upheld by all project members, whether they can vote or not. > > If all you're interested in doing is demanding my credentials and > painting me as an outsider, I don't think this contributes to the > discussion at all. It contributes a lot! experience gives new points of view. Months are passed and the situation is the same: talk with you is like talking to walls. I'm going back to ignore you again, like many others do, sorry. Regards, -- Sandro Tosi (aka morph, Morpheus, matrixhasu) My website: http://matrixhasu.altervista.org/ Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
