On Thu, 2021-04-01 at 15:38 +0200, Ulrike Uhlig wrote: > Sergey, > > On 01.04.21 15:24, Sergey B Kirpichev wrote: > > > You're making a good cause to make the lists read-only for non- > > > members > > > > I'm trying to argue my position, instead of long reasonings about > > feelings of my opponents and so on. Is that wrong for the Debian > > now? > > To what goal are you trying to argue your position? You don't need to > send the answer to the list, it's an invitation to self-reflection. > > > Why? Because it's how you analyze counter-arguments. > > (https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2021/03/msg00412.html - a > > good > > example.) > > > > > I joined Debian because it is inclusive > > > > The original goal of the Debian was not being inclusive, > > but a free OS. That's all debian users still expect from the > > project. > > Please speak only for yourself and not for "all Debian users", I > doubt > you know all of them :) > > Goals might evolve. It's also called "growing up". > > Ever heard about the change curve? When change happens around us, we > go > through different phases coping with that change. On which part of > the > curve are you? > https://www.mydigitalsurfari.de/wp-content/uploads/Unbenanntes-Notizbuch-3.jpg > > > > Take care, > u. >
> > > I joined Debian because it is inclusive > > > > The original goal of the Debian was not being inclusive, > > but a free OS. That's all debian users still expect from the > > project. > > Please speak only for yourself and not for "all Debian users", I > doubt > you know all of them :) > > Goals might evolve. It's also called "growing up". > I started using Debian when I was in school. Now, if you tell me the goal of Debian changed from free OS to something else - it is not the reason I am using Debian. note: I personally also support the other cause. In future I fear that I might get an proprietary kernel with "apt-get upgrade" that is exclusively licensed for Debian because we are "growing up" and free OS/software is not to goal of Debian anymore.