I don't mean to cross you and it is a question out of it's time seeing as
you haven't made any decisions yet but what about functionality and
extensibility of your "proprietary" platform? Are we in for another IWEBMSG
and are you going to hire a whole new team to support coding
features/upgrades for this? I see this as being your expense where you would
have almost none using existing "free" technologies such as IIS. Remember
that you are dealing with Win32 admins here and yes you can't please all the
people all the time but you can sure come close by injecting your new
project into our Win32 subset of experience. What you could do is just
forward to the list the new found bugs and patches for IIS from Microsoft
and other 3rd party security companies for those who don't keep up-to-date.
*guilty*

Craig.

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>I agree that the flat files work well for Junkmail itself. However, a
>web GUI will be very hard to do without the 'masters' kept in a database.
>Without a database you'll run into file locking problems and it will be
>harder to deal with single records.

That's why we try stay away from the bleeding edge technology -- there's a
reason they use the word "bleeding".  It will actually be easier for us to
use a flat file than to use a database.

> >  use IIS (a lot of people don't want to use it, for security reasons).
>
>This is pretty much a moot point as both IIS and Apache have the same
>security risks. IIS just gets more press.

<G>  We won't use Apache either.

> >  or any special technologies (such as dot NET, ASP, CF, etc.).  We
> would need to create something
> > that would work on all servers, and not have any special requirements.
>
>That's going to be hard.

Not for us.  <G>

>You really only have two choices that could cover most of the bases.
>ASP or PHP both are available in the Win and Unix worlds. Win32 admins
>will prefer ASP.

Sorry, I should have included PHP in that list (which is amazingly
flexible, BTW).  We're not talking about something the typical pre-bubble
"We need to show them something to collect our $10 million funding" company
would produce.  We actually wrote a web scripting language well before ASP
was available, and wrote our first web server back when people thought that
dynamic content on a web page was a web page that was updated by hand every
few hours.

If we require ASP or PHP, we're going to require something that a number of
our customers either don't have or won't have.  Many of our customers would
not even think of installing IIS or Apache on a mailserver.
                                     -Scott

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