Kevin,

I agree in theory to your point but your argument does not take the scale of
this situation into consideration. The .com extension is typically the most
sought after extension. .Net is widely used for ISPs that have been most
affected by operator processes that are / were in place for their users /
network optimization.

This maneuver was not a violation DNS specification. However, this
substantially more serious and market affecting than anything else that has
happened so far. Lets forget about the hundreds of thousands of processes it
disabled for a minute and just look at the possible legal violations of
VeriSign's Registry Agreement. There are far reaching ramifications
pertaining the search engine market as well (Hence the 100 million dollar
antitrust lawsuit:
http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/6818688.htm).

I am not the owner of whois.sc. So, I would express your opinion directly to
them. I posted that for the thousands of sysadmins that have had tens of
thousands of processes break because of the unilateral change made by this
wildcard implementation. I also point out that VeriBlind did this without
ICANN approval. This has also prompted the IAB to release a commentary on
the use of DNS wildcards:
http://www.iab.org/documents/docs/2003-09-20-dns-wildcards.html 
This article makes no mention of VeriSign. Instead it says "Problems
encountered in a recent experiment with wildcards"

Today, ICANN has formerly asked VeriSlime to voluntarily suspend the Site
Finder "service" pending an investigation that was ALREADY underway before
the update was released.

VeriMime has been strangely very quiet.  I wonder why.


Best Regards,

Phillip B. Holmes



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I think for this to stick they need to change the letter to address the
issue of other TLD systems that do the same thing. YOU are TARGETING one
company when in fact others started this before Verisign with other TLDs.

If this is what you actual believe on its technical merits/violation of the
RFCs then the letter should be expanded to include all companies that manage
TLD root servers that return and answer for non-existent domains.

Although I think the letter makes good technical points, I think it is
misplaced to reference only Verisign.

I would sign a letter that includes all companies that manage TLD root
servers that return answers for non-existent domain names.



My two cents.
Kevin Bilbee
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Petition against VeriCrime's abuse of root operation:

http://www.whois.sc/verisign-dns/

Best Regards, 
Phillip B. Holmes 



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oops
just found something in the archive, please disregard my question if it was
already explained here in simple tems
i will read the archives and see if i get it :)


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