> In the meantime, why not relay your outbound mail through your ISP? Obviously you have never relayed your outbound mail through an ISP! If you had, you would not suggest that course of action. :)
Currently, I have no problems. I hope that I can keep it this way! Todd Holt Xidix Technologies, Inc Las Vegas, NV USA www.xidix.com 702.319.4349 > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:46 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Does anyone not have Reverse DNS? > > >> 1. ISPs are not accurately, clearly and fairly specifying RDNS entries. > They need to do a better job of this, but have little motivation to do > this. > << > > Well - I see your point and admit that there will be a painful time of > adjustment. > > But frankly, providers like yours will adopt their policies, when many of > their business customers suddenly have valid complaints that they are > unable > to send emails anymore. There is no need for them to DELEGATE DNS, but at > least they have to offer to adopt their Reverse DNS to your needs (e.g. > generic host entries for your domain). > > In the meantime, why not relay your outbound mail through your ISP? > > Best Regards > Andy Schmidt > > Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) > Fax: +1 201 934-9206 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Holt > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 01:33 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Does anyone not have Reverse DNS? > > > Jason, > Many ISPs refuse (for one reason or another) to delegate RDNS. > > For example, we have a T-1 from MPower in Las Vegas. It is business > class. > It has is a static block of 8 IPs. Normally considered by most as > acceptable to host a mail server. But Mpower refuses to delegate RDNS. > > And a few times people on this list have set forth criteria that would > classify us as unacceptable. Bundling us into the dynamic IP bunch > because > of our RNDS from MPower: las-DSL224-cust089.mpowercom.net > > The most common reason for this reasoning is that most admins consider > "DSL" > to be equal to "consumer". But there is such a thing as SDSL (symmetric > DSL) at speeds > 2Mbit! A better hosting environment than my T-1. > > In conclusion, I see two distinct problems here: > 1. ISPs are not accurately, clearly and fairly specifying RDNS entries. > They > need to do a better job of this, but have little motivation to do this. > > 2. Mail admins need to do a better job of creating criteria for mail > classification. Don't lump all DSL into spam source. Don't put a lot of > stock into what an RDNS says, just that it exists. I really appreciate > Pete > McNeil's unique approach in building a tool that looks for the same things > that I would look for by hand, in the content, not the context. I think > we > need more out of the box thinking like this. > > Todd Holt > Xidix Technologies, Inc > Las Vegas, NV USA > www.xidix.com > 702.319.4349 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:52 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Does anyone not have Reverse DNS? > > > > I wanted to throw this question to the list: > > > > 1) Who does *NOT* have Reverse DNS (PTR) entries for their > mailservers? > > > > 2) If so, why not? > > > > Personally I think reverse DNS entries adds an ounce of ownership to > who > > actually uses an IP address. For instance, I have several IPs given to > me > > by my colo provider. I have reverse DNS on all of them, even the IPs I > > haven't used yet. If anyone looks my IPs up they will see something > like: > > Number.freedom2be.net as reverse DNS. This is basically telling them > that > > "freedom2be.net" is the operator of the IP address. > > > > 3) Shouldn't all mail servers on the internet have a reverse DNS entry > > with some valid "administrative" domain name? We use "freedom2be.net" > > exclusively for our reverse DNS entries. As our mail server is > multi-homed > > with many different domains. If someone needs to contact the > appropriate > > owner of the IP, say our mail server was doing something "bad" (which > it > > never has) they would know that "freedom2be.net" is the domain to > email. > > (such as [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Isn't this a good idea? > > > > --Jason > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus > > (http://www.declude.com)] > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type > > "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". 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