For those wondering what we are talking about:

http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1912.html
RFC 1912 - Common DNS Operational and Configuration Errors

Please consider RFC1912 section 2.1 that doesn't *require* that the reverse DNS entries, but makes it clear that not having one is a "use at your own risk" type of situation.

--Jason

Jason,
I think I have been convinced to push this issue with MPower.  First I
hope that John's contact can help me out, but I will also forward the
RFC to them.

Thanks for the debate! :)

Todd Holt
Xidix Technologies, Inc
Las Vegas, NV  USA
www.xidix.com
702.319.4349



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> Todd, thanks for the insight.
>
>   >Jason,
>   >Many ISPs refuse (for one reason or another) to delegate RDNS.
>
> Instead of delegating the RDNS to you, would they make the changes for
> you?
> Say, give them a list of your IPs and what you would like the RDNS to
be?
>
> I guess I'm very fortunate to have worked with competent, and
cooperative
> ISPs the past 5 years. I too had my servers once on SDSL. and in 2
> different colo facilities. All gave me RDNS the way I wanted it. (btw,
all
> the providers I used were great, I just moved a few times)
>
>   >And a few times people on this list have set forth criteria that
would
>   >classify us as unacceptable.  Bundling us into the dynamic IP bunch
>   >because of our RNDS from MPower:
>   >las-DSL224-cust089.mpowercom.net
>
> That's just not fair, AND not worth your money. You should demand that
> they
> serve you the way you need to be!
>
>   >The most common reason for this reasoning is that most admins
consider
>   >"DSL" to be equal to "consumer".  But there is such a thing as SDSL
>   >(symmetric DSL) at speeds > 2Mbit!  A better hosting environment
than
> my
>   >T-1.
>
> ARgggH!! Agreed. Stupid admins!  Is the world not full of too many of
them
> already?
>
> Thanks for chiming in with your thoughts. I think you need to pressure
> your
> provider to give you RDNS entries with your own domain name content,
after
> all you are a paying business-class customer. You might want to refer
them
> to the RFC that states RDNS is a good thing, your being lumped into
> dynamic
> block lists based on the contents of the existing RDNS name is a
serious
> operational issue, and AOL's policies for blocking email.
>
> --Jason
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