Andy, Microsoft certainly is an important player. I just wish that they would stick to the standards that everyone else does. In order to get mail to them in an orderly fashion, I need to use a static copy of their DNS record in the DNS server on my mailserver, that I've cooked to know only about the inbound Hotmail.com and Microsoft.com servers that are actually responding.
This is because they publish MX records for hosts that are up, but not accepting mail. IMail then thinks it's a great idea to try to send to that host 10 minutes later. And again. And again. They also mix and match some of their HELO, forward lookup, and reverse lookup. And they're notorious for having no reverse lookup on their outbound mailhosts for Hotmail.com For example, check out: http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/[EMAIL PROTECTED] They probably have a decent reason for what they're doing (e.g. DoS protection and response), but their implementation of it is poor. Andrew 8) -----Original Message----- From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 11:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF 2.0 ? Hi Bill, Again, my opinion is not what matters. I understand your arguments. I can only go by what my clients do and the trend that I see develop. Two large domains will implement it, apparently other large organizations will add SPF2.0 TXT records "just in case". After all, it does no harm - so it's cheap insurance. So - instead of standing on a high (open source) horse, I prefer to USE that information that OTHERs publish to reduce Spam sent to MY network in the meantime. That may not be "right" - but it sure is practical. No? Best Regards Andy Schmidt H&M Systems Software, Inc. 600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203 Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846 Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax: +1 201 934-9206 http://www.HM-Software.com/ --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.