Yeah, throw us Pro users a couple of bones!
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From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 2:02 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running Declude with
imail8.21???
DB> 1. 3.0.3 in our testing has been considerably quicker than that of
earlier versions of Declude.
Dave, at the top of my suggested list for "new code" in declude.exe has
been to do robust MIME decoding so that Declude PRO text filters no
longer grind the raw layer of attachments for spammy text. That alone
would make Declude orders of magnitude faster, more accurate, and
lighter on RAM.
Meanwhile, Matt's SizeOf.vbs and Scott's compiled version have been a
great stopgap for me. If anybody out there is wondering what the heck
I'm talking about, check the archive for my posting of my SKIPATTACH
test.
Andrew 8)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 11:54 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running
Declude with imail8.21???
Dan,
1. 3.0.3 in our testing has been considerably quicker than
that of earlier versions of Declude.
2. We have never seen an long delay in the processing of
email and no one else has reported this.
3. As mentioned on the Beta page there are still issues with
orphan files due to Hijack, but this is because the hijack is
moving the email to the HOLD2 folder and leaving files
behind, these email should not be legitimate.
4. The only other reasons we are aware of for orphan files is
- if the files already exist in the location (eg Spam folder)
then the files cannot be moved from the \work directory to
that location.
5. In order to find the cause please send us your log files /
copy of an orphaned email / config files for us to look at
the situation ?
6. In addition to the lists, in future it would be a good
idea to email us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with issues you are
experiencing so we can deal with them promptly.
Thanks
David B
www.declude.com
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Horne
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 2:26 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running
Declude with imail8.21???
3.0.3. Mail has backed up repeatedly since installing this
version. We originally installed 3.0 when it was released,
but quickly backed off that when the service stopped on its
own, leaving multiple files in the proc directory. After
waiting a while, we got an email about 3.0.3 being released
which seemed to specifically target the problems we had, so
we again immediately installed that version (on Sep 2). The
results were OK until the weekend when mail piled up for an
unknown reason. We just waited that one out, and the next
one which occurred Monday afternoon. The one from yesterday
though caused an hour-long delay in email delivery. Today
the decision was made to cease the beta test and revert back
to 1.82. The change was made this morning at around 9:00 AM
EST, and the files I noted are still in the work directory
now, 5 hours later.
I just want to note that the same server never backs up
running 1.82. I notice that there is now a version 3.0.3.4,
but we of course haven't tried that version. FWIW, we are
using all three Declude products including Hijack.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 2:04 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running
Declude with imail8.21???
Dan,
What version for Declude Beta were you running? As we have
not seen the behavior you are referring to.
David B
www.declude.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Horne
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 1:58 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running
Declude with imail8.21???
Yes, we just today reverted back to 1.82 because our
single-processor machine backed up. At the worst there was
an hour delay in delivery. I specifically denoted it was a
single-processor machine just to indicate that our problems
would not be related to the multi-processor sleep problems.
It just doesn't seem able to handle the load that 1.82 does.
And yes, we have increased our THREADS to 25.
Also, they claim to have fixed a problem with leftover files,
but after swapping out the Declude executable with 1.82 and
leaving the Decludeproc service running, 24 files are still
stranded in the "spool\proc\work"
directory and there are 9 *.vir directories still in there
(they are truly stranded, even the 24 files comprise 12
paired q and d files they are not being delivered for several
hours with the Decludeproc service still running. I am going
to have to move them back into the spool directory manually).
The Decludeproc service has NOT stopped running at all in
the several days it has been running, so I don't know why the
files are stranded. I just tried restarting it to see if I
could "wake it up", but it didn't give me any love. Looking
at the dates, I see one q/d pair from Sep 2, several from Sep
7 and the 2 pair from today. Each one of these represents a
"lost" email. I opened a few and didn't find any of them to
be spam. The one thing I can't abide is "lost" email, so I
had to stop our beta test.
________________________________
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 12:11 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running
Declude with imail8.21???
IMail 8.20+ is only compatible with Declude 3+, but that
software is still in early beta and I wouldn't recommend it.
This combination can work, but it appears that the higher the
volume you have, the more likely you are to experience
serious issues with E-mail backing up. I have been using IMail
8.15 HF2 for many months without any new issues, and it works
very well with Declude 2.0.6.16 (the most recent interim
release) which also doesn't have any new issues. The newer
Declude 3.0 that is in beta is basically the same in terms of
functionality, but it is changed to act as a service in order
to resolve issues with the changes in IMail 8.20+ and also
increase performance slightly. This is a big change for
Declude, and building a service to handle E-mail reliably
isn't a small feat so I would suggest being patient in the mean time.
Matt
Timothy Bohen wrote:
Oh ouch, thats embarrising, you could have sent this
off list!!! :) I KNOW I didnt change that path, is there any
chance upgrading to 8.21 somehow changed it?
So anyway, now that I downgraded already, should I go
to 8.21 again or are there problems with declude? I'm not
crazy about running a beta version of declude.
Thanks
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From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:28:41 -0400
I gave up and downgraded to 8.15 now
I'm getting:
09:07 15:08 SMTPD(CP) error 3 executing
"c:\imail\Declude.exe"
"D:\IMAIL\spool\Q3ab90041008c0e76.SMD"
It looks like you set up Declude to run in
C:\IMail, but you run IMail
on D:\IMail. :)
-Scott
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