Scott,

We are very happy with the suggestions Declude users have made regarding
tests and improvements of Declude, as soon as we are done with the Declude
3.0 release the focus will be on these additions wrt to functionality.

David B
www.declude.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 3:20 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running Declude with
imail8.21???

Yeah, throw us Pro users a couple of bones!

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From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 2:02 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running Declude with
imail8.21???


DB> 1. 3.0.3 in our testing has been considerably quicker than that of
earlier versions of Declude.

Dave, at the top of my suggested list for "new code" in declude.exe has been
to do robust MIME decoding so that Declude PRO text filters no longer grind
the raw layer of attachments for spammy text.  That alone would make Declude
orders of magnitude faster, more accurate, and lighter on RAM.

Meanwhile, Matt's SizeOf.vbs and Scott's compiled version have been a great
stopgap for me.  If anybody out there is wondering what the heck I'm talking
about, check the archive for my posting of my SKIPATTACH test.

Andrew 8)


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 11:54 AM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running Declude with 
> imail8.21???
>
> Dan,
>
> 1. 3.0.3 in our testing has been considerably quicker than that of 
> earlier versions of Declude.
>
> 2. We have never seen an long delay in the processing of email and no 
> one else has reported this.
>
> 3. As mentioned on the Beta page there are still issues with orphan 
> files due to Hijack, but this is because the hijack is moving the 
> email to the HOLD2 folder and leaving files behind, these email should 
> not be legitimate.
>
> 4. The only other reasons we are aware of for orphan files is
> - if the files already exist in the location (eg Spam folder) then the 
> files cannot be moved from the \work directory to that location.
>
> 5. In order to find the cause please send us your log files / copy of 
> an orphaned email / config files for us to look at the situation ?
>
> 6. In addition to the lists, in future it would be a good idea to 
> email us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with issues you are experiencing so we 
> can deal with them promptly.
>
> Thanks
> David B
> www.declude.com
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Horne
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 2:26 PM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running Declude with 
> imail8.21???
>
>
> 3.0.3.  Mail has backed up repeatedly since installing this version.  
> We originally installed 3.0 when it was released, but quickly backed 
> off that when the service stopped on its own, leaving multiple files 
> in the proc directory.  After waiting a while, we got an email about 
> 3.0.3 being released which seemed to specifically target the problems 
> we had, so we again immediately installed that version (on Sep 2).  
> The results were OK until the weekend when mail piled up for an 
> unknown reason.  We just waited that one out, and the next one which 
> occurred Monday afternoon.  The one from yesterday though caused an 
> hour-long delay in email delivery.  Today the decision was made to 
> cease the beta test and revert back to 1.82.  The change was made this 
> morning at around 9:00 AM EST, and the files I noted are still in the 
> work directory now, 5 hours later.
>
> I just want to note that the same server never backs up running 1.82.  
> I notice that there is now a version 3.0.3.4, but we of course haven't 
> tried that version.  FWIW, we are using all three Declude products 
> including Hijack.
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 2:04 PM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running Declude with 
> imail8.21???
>
>
> Dan,
>
> What version for Declude Beta were you running? As we have not seen 
> the behavior you are referring to.
>
> David B
> www.declude.com
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Horne
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 1:58 PM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running Declude with 
> imail8.21???
>
>
> Yes, we just today reverted back to 1.82 because our single-processor 
> machine backed up.  At the worst there was an hour delay in delivery.  
> I specifically denoted it was a single-processor machine just to 
> indicate that our problems would not be related to the multi-processor 
> sleep problems.
> It just doesn't seem able to handle the load that 1.82 does.
> And yes, we have increased our THREADS to 25.
>
> Also, they claim to have fixed a problem with leftover files, but 
> after swapping out the Declude executable with 1.82 and leaving the 
> Decludeproc service running, 24 files are still stranded in the 
> "spool\proc\work"
> directory and there are 9 *.vir directories still in there (they are 
> truly stranded, even the 24 files comprise 12 paired q and d files 
> they are not being delivered for several hours with the Decludeproc 
> service still running.  I am going to have to move them back into the 
> spool directory manually).
>  The Decludeproc service has NOT stopped running at all in the several 
> days it has been running, so I don't know why the files are stranded.  
> I just tried restarting it to see if I could "wake it up", but it 
> didn't give me any love.  Looking at the dates, I see one q/d pair 
> from Sep 2, several from Sep
> 7 and the 2 pair from today.  Each one of these represents a "lost" 
> email.  I opened a few and didn't find any of them to be spam.  The 
> one thing I can't abide is "lost" email, so I had to stop our beta 
> test.
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 12:11 PM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running Declude with 
> imail8.21???
>
>
> IMail 8.20+ is only compatible with Declude 3+, but that software is 
> still in early beta and I wouldn't recommend it.
> This combination can work, but it appears that the higher the volume 
> you have, the more likely you are to experience serious issues with 
> E-mail backing up.  I have been using IMail
> 8.15 HF2 for many months without any new issues, and it works very 
> well with Declude 2.0.6.16 (the most recent interim
> release) which also doesn't have any new issues.  The newer Declude 
> 3.0 that is in beta is basically the same in terms of functionality, 
> but it is changed to act as a service in order to resolve issues with 
> the changes in IMail 8.20+ and also increase performance slightly.  
> This is a big change for Declude, and building a service to handle 
> E-mail reliably isn't a small feat so I would suggest being patient in 
> the mean time.
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> Timothy Bohen wrote:
>
> Oh ouch, thats embarrising, you could have sent this off list!!! :) I 
> KNOW I didnt change that path, is there any chance upgrading to 8.21 
> somehow changed it?
>
> So anyway, now that I downgraded already, should I go to 8.21 again or 
> are there problems with declude? I'm not crazy about running a beta 
> version of declude.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Date:  Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:28:41 -0400
>
>
>
> I gave up and downgraded to 8.15 now
> I'm getting:
> 09:07 15:08 SMTPD(CP) error 3 executing "c:\imail\Declude.exe"
>
>
> "D:\IMAIL\spool\Q3ab90041008c0e76.SMD"
>
> It looks like you set up Declude to run in
> C:\IMail, but you run IMail
> on D:\IMail.  :)
>                       -Scott
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