Hear hear. > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt > Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 4:36 PM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding - > > Someone could write a plug-in or Declude could be modified to handle this, > or IMail could be modified to handle this (and then Declude would probably > need to be updated to handle what IMail changed). > > Why implement a work around in a standards compliant platform in order to > deal with a flawed mechanism in use at another provider, when that > mechanism is rare? I would prefer that SPF just disappeared. You will > probably spend less time telling your client that their destination server > has issues that you can't fix and that they should take it up with them. > It is not your, my, nor anyone else's responsibility to implement SRS in > the current framework. > > SRS isn't a an RFC standard, in fact according to that page that you > provided, it seems that they are moving towards the "SUBMITTER" parameter. > Maybe people should have thought about these issues before rushing to > support SPF in the first place? > > SPF, in it's current form, will die. Just give it time. The more support > that you give for it, the more resistance to change will exist.and the > longer it will take for it to die. The implementation of SPF was always > severely flawed, and two years later, there has been hardly any progress > at fixing those issues, and there are now several competing sender > validation mechanisms, all of which are flawed in one way or another. The > technology is all ridiculously short-sighted. It's a problem and not a > solution. > > Matt > > > > Nick Hayer wrote: > > Matt wrote: > > Real-world issues include working around bad implementation, > such as surfglobal.net not configuring their server to reject messages > that fail SPF. > > > SRS is a work around - and I'm simply asking if anyone has > implemented it on an Imail/Declude platform. Kindly stay on topic.... I > am aware of your feelings about SPF - all I'm doing is working out a > solution with what is in place - an MTA bouncing my legit email. > > > > I suggest you tell your customer that they can't forward their > E-mail reliably unless surfglobal.net removes their SPF restrictions, and > there is nothing that you can do about it. > > > Should I stamp my feet and make a face when I tell them that? :) > > I can simply ask SurfGlobal to accept me as a trusted sender - but I > am trying to avoid that via SRS - so I will not have to make that call or > any others. > > -Nick >
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