The initial release of SM 3.x they changed the format of their domains file so everything that Declude checked was considered outgoing. This has since been resolved with the latest release in 4.0.9 and 3.0.6 in Declude and 3.x of SM.
David B www.declude.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Baranowski Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 4:39 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3 / Declude 4 FYI, David informed me that the SM3/Declude 4.x will us the global.cfg for actions instead of the $default$.junkmail file. This was more then a week ago, so I don't know if this has been changed yet. (SM3 issue) Rick -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 2:06 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3 / Declude 4 So in your Declude configuration, you have everything set to WARN only? And then in SmarterMail, you decide what actions to take? What impact does "unmark as spam" have, in relation to Declude? I get the feeling that this could be very powerful, in terms of dealing with false positives, etc ... assuming that it works as it should. Using SmarterMail based rules, it'd be possible to move spam to the customer's junk e-mail folder and then also use SmarterMail's auto-purge settings to keep the size of the junkmail folder under control. We can also give our customers more power to whitelist through SmarterMail trusted senders. We are planning on upgrading later this week and I want to do it right. I just hope that the transition between essentially what was Declude setup for iMail originally, to Declude integrated with SmarterMail will be smooth. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Robertson Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 2:14 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3 / Declude 4 Declude's integration with SmarterMail's spam system is something we had been waiting on for over a year. Declude passes the final weight back to SM, and SM decides what to do with the message. This means you can set different actions for each user or domain based on whatever weight is best for them. Some admins might take this for granted, but using SM 2.x with Declude always felt like you were patching together content filters to try to trick SM into reading Declude's recommendation. Basically everything built into SM to handle spam now works, including: domain and user level "trusted senders"; whitelisting from address books and "Unmark as Spam"; and whitelisting thru SM only applies to the user/domain it was set for (whereas whitelisting thru Declude would whitelist the message for every recipient). In addition, the SM spam setting for message forwarding (i.e. - "Do not forward spam level medium and above") actually works. Very useful. In short, the SM 3/Declude 4 combo is an incredible improvement over the previous version. Declude just assigns the weight -- SM handles delivering, modifying or deleting the message. I can't comment on SMTP blocking. We use gateways to filter all incoming mail, so we don't use that feature. I'd be interested to hear whether it actually does use Declude to block at the SMTP level. Hope that helps, Jeff > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 9:51 AM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3 / Declude 4 > > I'm wondering if anyone is running SmarterMail 3 / Declude 4 and can > explain the greater integration that SmarterMail now has with Declude, > and how you've been dealing with that so far. Most intriguing is this > potential feature from SmarterMail manual: > > Declude > Declude integration allows you to use Declude products in conjunction > with the SmarterMail weighting system. Configuration of Declude is done > through the Declude product, and all you need to do in SmarterMail is > enable the spam check. > > -- AND -- > > SMTP Blocking > This tab allows you to set up extra spam checks that block emails at > delivery if a certain amount of spam checks fail. > > Enable SMTP Spam Blocking - Check this box to turn on this feature. > > SMTP Block Threshold - An email must score this value or higher in order > to be blocked. The score is established by the settings on the Spam > Checks tab. > > Does this mean that it's now possible to reject messages using Declude > at the SMTP session level? > > Thanks! > ----- > Jay Sudowski // Handy Networks LLC > Director of Technical Operations > Providing Shared, Reseller, Semi Managed and Fully Managed Windows 2003 > Hosting Solutions > Tel: 877-70 HANDY x882 | Fax: 888-300-2FAX www.handynetworks.com > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. 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