A friend of mine was one of the original founders of Bridge Data. They were the first folks to take the Wall Street Ticker and resell it using DEC PDP 1170, 1134, 1144, etc., to ADP, Traders, Brokerages and others.
Bridge owned SAVVIS and some other related entities and they were a publicly traded company. During that time, not many years ago, I saw a long article in a St. Louis business journal, where the CEO quoted similar numbers which were also projected by some 3rd Party consultancy Group. He added his own forecast about increases in head count and revenue. He was a well educated and bright individual and he wasn't a pup, when it came to running a company. He had tenure and a track record. Less than a year after the date of the article, Bridge filed for Bankruptcy. You'll note I didn't say "bankruptcy protection." In contrast, no amount of protection could saved the enterprise. There is a moral to this story. Whenever a company doesn't listen to the customer, or in this case tells its most active customers that they should effectively refrain from discussing a subject, which the company itself made most topical, then I can point to the foregoing and many other examples of what to expect in the future. Personally, I am disappointed in where I see Declude now and where I see it going. The lack of good flowing communications to/from the customer base about new releases, bug fixes, etc. and, particularly, the lack of a properly orchestrated roll-out of this new product enhancement/add-on, says that the organization is disjointed, disorganized and that major changes are not well thought out and prepared for in advance, nor well managed as brush fire on the back side. The people expressing concerns, asking questions and wanting an audience are your active customers. Keep telling them to go away and they will. How many times is Declude going to kick itself in the chins with steel toed combat boots before someone there gets it? Thanks, Tuesday, July 18, 2006, 4:19:51 PM, David Barker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: DB> Just as a side note. I have provided the contact information if you have any DB> further questions about the upcoming program, please be reminded that the DB> board is designed for comments on performance, function, features of our DB> software, not Declude's strategy of marketing & sales programs. DB> Thanks DB> David B DB> www.declude.com DB> -----Original Message----- DB> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David DB> Barker DB> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 5:09 PM DB> To: [email protected] DB> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 DB> Matt, DB> Managed services is the fastest growing segment of this industry, CAGR DB> forecasted at 25% per year through 2009. While the industry may seem DB> commoditized, you have pointed out that businesses like Postini offer a DB> poor product but are projecting $100,000,000 in revenues. So I'd say there DB> is plenty of revenue to cannibalize if Declude works with Service Providers DB> to empower them to offer premium services and help market and promote those DB> services. This is the idea behind our Service Provider Program. I don't DB> think we're being greedy, but rather trying to get creative and help the DB> small guys compete against the big guys. DB> If you have any questions or would like to speak to someone about the DB> program please call or email: DB> Arik [EMAIL PROTECTED] DB> Kristina [EMAIL PROTECTED] DB> David B DB> www.declude.com DB> ________________________________ DB> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt DB> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 4:07 PM DB> To: [email protected] DB> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 DB> David, DB> What makes the good folk at Declude and CommTouch believe that there is any DB> revenue to share? For the majority of service providers that are Declude DB> customers, spam blocking is a 100% cost center, and for the few that offer a DB> gateway service, none of us are getting rich, in fact the astounding greed DB> that software companies have presented us with in the last 5 years combined DB> with competitive pressures of cheap or even free services has commoditized DB> much of what we are doing. DB> I have absolutely no revenue to share with Declude or CommTouch outside of DB> reasonable software licensing fees. The only revenue that I share is with DB> those that generate business for my company. If I get rich off of doing DB> what I am doing, it will be primarily the result of my blood, sweat and DB> tears, otherwise there would be 10,000 others just like me. DB> Matt DB> David Barker wrote: DB> There are restrictions on CommTouch being used by Service Providers DB> we had DB> to ensure that NEW customers (ie. Service Providers After 1 June 06) DB> understand the licensing restrictions. DB> DB> Current Service Providers (ie. Before 1 June 06) are under no DB> restrictions DB> for using Declude; only the CommTouch add-in component. DB> DB> However we have managed to come to an agreement with CommTouch to DB> enable our DB> legacy customers (ie. Service Providers Before 1 June 06) to take DB> advantage DB> of CommTouch under a revenue share program, this program is not DB> being forced DB> onto legacy customers but will be an opportunity for us to help you DB> increase DB> revenues in your business, by providing you with new product like DB> the DB> Declude Gateway which would be independent of Imail/SmarterMail and DB> will DB> include CommTouch. DB> DB> David B DB> www.declude.com DB> DB> DB> DB> -----Original Message----- DB> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DB> John T DB> (Lists) DB> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 3:02 PM DB> To: [email protected] DB> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 DB> DB> I guess we all missed the following paragraph in the license DB> agreement: DB> DB> 3.2.6 sub-license, rent, sell, lease, distribute, or otherwise DB> transfer the DB> Licensed Program save as provided under this End-User License DB> Agreement DB> unless You obtain a separate License from Declude, Inc. for such DB> purposes DB> (for example, You may not embed the Licensed Program into another DB> application and then distribute such to third parties unless You DB> first DB> acquire an OEM License from Declude, Inc.). As of June 1, 2006, DB> ISP's and DB> other service providers are not permitted to use Declude software to DB> clean DB> and forward mail to customers unless a separate revenue share DB> agreement has DB> been established with Declude. DB> DB> http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=121 DB> DB> Is Declude trying to put us out of business? We pay for the software DB> and now DB> have to pay them some of your meager profits? DB> DB> John T DB> eServices For You DB> DB> "Seek, and ye shall find!" DB> DB> DB> -----Original Message----- DB> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On DB> Behalf Of DB> Gary Steiner DB> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:24 AM DB> To: [email protected] DB> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 DB> DB> I guess someone is going to make an official announcement DB> today about DB> DB> Declude 4.3? DB> DB> I see that its downloadable in my account, but it would be DB> nice to DB> know DB> DB> what I'm DB> DB> getting before I install it, especially the new Commtouch DB> stuff. DB> DB> The "Restrictions" listed next to the Add Commtouch section DB> are DB> especially DB> DB> confusing. DB> DB> https://www.declude.com/articles.asp?ID=205 DB> DB> Who would use Declude and not fit the definitions of the DB> restrictions? DB> DB> Based on my DB> DB> reading of the Restrictions, nobody who uses Declude will DB> ever be able DB> to DB> DB> use DB> DB> Commtouch. If I am misreading this, would someone please DB> explain it DB> to DB> DB> me? DB> DB> Gary DB> DB> DB> DB> DB> DB> --- DB> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To DB> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], DB> and type DB> "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found DB> at DB> http://www.mail-archive.com. DB> DB> DB> DB> DB> DB> --- DB> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To DB> unsubscribe, DB> just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe DB> Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at DB> http://www.mail-archive.com. DB> DB> DB> DB> --- DB> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To DB> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and DB> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found DB> at http://www.mail-archive.com. DB> DB> DB> DB> DB> --- DB> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, DB> just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe DB> Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. DB> --- DB> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, DB> just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe DB> Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at DB> http://www.mail-archive.com. DB> --- DB> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To DB> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and DB> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found DB> at http://www.mail-archive.com. ---- Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364 Fax: (972) 788-5049 ---- --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
