Thanks Craig.  I have on my budget an upgrade for our mail server - not sure
yet whether I'm sticking with Imail or going to SM.  Just sucks that it is
suddenly happening and I probably need to do it sooner rather than later.  I
don't know anything about Alligate and don't know whether that should be in
my plan regardless of what I upgrade to.  So I don't know if I should waste
time putting that in as a work around for now.

Todd


-----Original Message-----
From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Craig
Edmonds
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 11:33 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CBL:IP is Blacklisted


I had this problem too  and I have imail 8.15 so the stupid fix does not
apply to me either.

Therefore I had the choice (or rather the ultimatum from CBL) to either
upgrade Imail or use a smtp gateway.

So I now use Alligate as an smtp server.

It funny...not....that they "used" to whitelist imail users, now they dont,
they just give you the ultimatum even when you can prove that your server is
legit and well protected.

The guys at CBL have their heads up their....well you can imagine it.


Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet Services
W: www.123marbella.com
E : cr...@123marbella.com





-----Original Message-----
From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Todd
Richards
Sent: 13 February 2009 18:25
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CBL:IP is Blacklisted


Thanks Andrew.  I just got a note from CBL that says that they are no longer
automatically removing Imail machines, as there is a fix.  Not sure if my
older version (8.2x) is part of that fix or what.  Anyway, their message
said

"The CBL attempts to detect compromised machines in a number of ways based
upon the email that the CBL's mail servers receive.

During this it tries distinguish whether the connections represent real mail
servers by ensuring that each connection is claiming a plausible machine
name for itself (via SMTP HELO), and not listing any IP that corresponds to
a real mail server (or several mail servers if the IP address is a NAT
firewall with multiple mail servers behind it).

8.7.193.82 was found to be using several different EHLO/HELO names during
multiple connections on or about:

2009:02:12 ~21:30 UTC+/- 15 minutes (approximately 19 hours ago).

The names seen included:

        enwcommunity.com, hcaa.com, mail.nnepa.com, p01c11m022.mxlogic.net,
p01c11m096.mxlogic.net, p01c11m102.mxlogic.net, p01c11m107.mxlogic.net,
p01c12m013.mxlogic.net, p01c12m062.mxlogic.net
"

The first two are legitimate virtual domains on our server, the third is our
server.  But I have no idea where the mxlogic.net names are from?

Todd





-----Original Message-----
From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Colbeck,
Andrew
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 10:56 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CBL:IP is Blacklisted

Here's the answer, Todd.

http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_fo...@list.ipswitch.com/msg103112.html

It's an old problem with CBL and IMail. Certainly, CBL is at fault and
by now they should have at least taken up SPF record checking to weed
out false positives. I just checked your SPF record and it is valid, so
this would have helped you.


Andrew.


 

-----Original Message-----
From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Todd
Richards
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 8:42 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CBL:IP is Blacklisted


OK, Sorry to cry wolf.  I sent them an email directly (which is what
they
said to do if you are running Imail) and it appears that they have us
removed already.  Not sure why/how we got added, if it has anything to
do
with Imail (as they suggest) or what.  I'm running several misc. scans
on
our server to be sure we don't have a problem.  Any other suggestions of
how/why, or what to check are always appreciated!

Todd


-----Original Message-----
From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Todd
Richards
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 10:13 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] CBL:IP is Blacklisted

Hi  Everyone -

Late yesterday I started seeing some bounces that our IP address was
being
rejected because of the following:

        RCPT TO generated following response:
        554 Denied [SHXBL] - Denied by Spamhaus XBL - See
        http://www.spamhaus.org/query/bl?ip=8.7.193.82 (Mode: normal)

I checked and we are, in fact, listed in CBL.  I went through the steps
to
request removal.  Is there anything else I should do?  I'm really not
sure
how we got on it anyway.  Does anyone know how long it takes?  I've got
several people hollering at me because anything they send out is being
rejected as spam.

Todd




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