Well Alligate should most definitely be in your plan.  I run it, cuts
server hits
by over 90%, is cost effective. Cuts Virus by nearly 99% as bots don't get
through
I tried SM as well as microsoft.  Best thing I have ever tried was Alligate.

Works well with Declude and they even have something coming out together.
Guess
SM has nice web interface now tho.  


At 01:34 PM 2/13/2009 -0600, Todd Richards wrote:
>Thanks Craig.  I have on my budget an upgrade for our mail server - not sure
>yet whether I'm sticking with Imail or going to SM.  Just sucks that it is
>suddenly happening and I probably need to do it sooner rather than later.  I
>don't know anything about Alligate and don't know whether that should be in
>my plan regardless of what I upgrade to.  So I don't know if I should waste
>time putting that in as a work around for now.
>
>Todd
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Craig
>Edmonds
>Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 11:33 AM
>To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
>Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CBL:IP is Blacklisted
>
>
>I had this problem too  and I have imail 8.15 so the stupid fix does not
>apply to me either.
>
>Therefore I had the choice (or rather the ultimatum from CBL) to either
>upgrade Imail or use a smtp gateway.
>
>So I now use Alligate as an smtp server.
>
>It funny...not....that they "used" to whitelist imail users, now they dont,
>they just give you the ultimatum even when you can prove that your server is
>legit and well protected.
>
>The guys at CBL have their heads up their....well you can imagine it.
>
>
>Kindest Regards
>Craig Edmonds
>123 Marbella Internet Services
>W: www.123marbella.com
>E : cr...@123marbella.com
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Todd
>Richards
>Sent: 13 February 2009 18:25
>To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
>Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CBL:IP is Blacklisted
>
>
>Thanks Andrew.  I just got a note from CBL that says that they are no longer
>automatically removing Imail machines, as there is a fix.  Not sure if my
>older version (8.2x) is part of that fix or what.  Anyway, their message
>said
>
>"The CBL attempts to detect compromised machines in a number of ways based
>upon the email that the CBL's mail servers receive.
>
>During this it tries distinguish whether the connections represent real mail
>servers by ensuring that each connection is claiming a plausible machine
>name for itself (via SMTP HELO), and not listing any IP that corresponds to
>a real mail server (or several mail servers if the IP address is a NAT
>firewall with multiple mail servers behind it).
>
>8.7.193.82 was found to be using several different EHLO/HELO names during
>multiple connections on or about:
>
>2009:02:12 ~21:30 UTC+/- 15 minutes (approximately 19 hours ago).
>
>The names seen included:
>
>       enwcommunity.com, hcaa.com, mail.nnepa.com, p01c11m022.mxlogic.net,
>p01c11m096.mxlogic.net, p01c11m102.mxlogic.net, p01c11m107.mxlogic.net,
>p01c12m013.mxlogic.net, p01c12m062.mxlogic.net
>"
>
>The first two are legitimate virtual domains on our server, the third is our
>server.  But I have no idea where the mxlogic.net names are from?
>
>Todd
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Colbeck,
>Andrew
>Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 10:56 AM
>To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
>Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CBL:IP is Blacklisted
>
>Here's the answer, Todd.
>
>http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_fo...@list.ipswitch.com/msg103112.html
>
>It's an old problem with CBL and IMail. Certainly, CBL is at fault and
>by now they should have at least taken up SPF record checking to weed
>out false positives. I just checked your SPF record and it is valid, so
>this would have helped you.
>
>
>Andrew.
>
>
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Todd
>Richards
>Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 8:42 AM
>To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
>Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CBL:IP is Blacklisted
>
>
>OK, Sorry to cry wolf.  I sent them an email directly (which is what
>they
>said to do if you are running Imail) and it appears that they have us
>removed already.  Not sure why/how we got added, if it has anything to
>do
>with Imail (as they suggest) or what.  I'm running several misc. scans
>on
>our server to be sure we don't have a problem.  Any other suggestions of
>how/why, or what to check are always appreciated!
>
>Todd
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Todd
>Richards
>Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 10:13 AM
>To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
>Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] CBL:IP is Blacklisted
>
>Hi  Everyone -
>
>Late yesterday I started seeing some bounces that our IP address was
>being
>rejected because of the following:
>
>       RCPT TO generated following response:
>       554 Denied [SHXBL] - Denied by Spamhaus XBL - See
>       http://www.spamhaus.org/query/bl?ip=8.7.193.82 (Mode: normal)
>
>I checked and we are, in fact, listed in CBL.  I went through the steps
>to
>request removal.  Is there anything else I should do?  I'm really not
>sure
>how we got on it anyway.  Does anyone know how long it takes?  I've got
>several people hollering at me because anything they send out is being
>rejected as spam.
>
>Todd
>
>
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