The problem for me is that I have to work:
it's true that Delphi/FPC/Lazarus have compact Win32
executables: unfortunately paying clients do not care
about such things. Speed and compactness are often relative:
Delphi is too expensive, has a small user base (in Italy) and
could disappear at any moment;
Lazarus frankly is not yet up to the clients' requirements:
I am afraid it will do the same as Delphi: leave me 'up
the creek without a paddle';

The clients, be they software developers or the end users,
often want DotNet/Web applications so the bloaty frameworks
are fine: most computers with 1Gb of RAM and a disk of 200GB
wouldn't notice if such a framework is present and the speed of the
user interface is usually more than fast enough: very often it is the speed
of the
database server or  the Internet connection to the Web server that is the
real determining factor; even interpreted script code is often very
fast on a modern computer;
the bloaty frameworks are from now on
usually part of the operating system in any case: their advantage is that
they are standardised and progressively maintained and should provide
standard system wide library routines with thousands of users;

The future of programming will very likely be using Web interfaces
and Web services: even recent industrial multiuser interfaces
are often Intranet Web browser GUI's: these are not as easy to
develop in Win32 as they are in DotNet/AspNet, even
if the latter are 'bloated';

If clients are interested in multiplatform applications, they often go for
Java
which has a HUGE user base which has been integrated into
the professional working scene for years: I haven't seen a single job offer
for non Delphi Pascal in Italy in the last eight months.

I agree that Delphi is perhaps the best tool for developing Win32,
unfortunately that is not in line with the main market demand:
its not possible to 'insist' on Pascal;

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michał Woźniak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [delphi-en] Delphi where is now and where it going


>
> With FPC/Lazarus you get cross-platform code (write once, compile
everywhere),
> but you don't compile it to some mid-way object/assembly, etc., and
hence -
> you don't need a bloaty framework (that not so many people actually have
> these days) or resources-consuming virtual machine to run it. It's always
a
> native binary executable file.
>
> So, "goodies without the baddies", I'd say.
>
> That's at least one of the reasons to insist on Pascal.
>
> Cheers
> Mike
>
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