The problem for me is that I have to work: it's true that Delphi/FPC/Lazarus have compact Win32 executables: unfortunately paying clients do not care about such things. Speed and compactness are often relative: Delphi is too expensive, has a small user base (in Italy) and could disappear at any moment; Lazarus frankly is not yet up to the clients' requirements: I am afraid it will do the same as Delphi: leave me 'up the creek without a paddle';
The clients, be they software developers or the end users, often want DotNet/Web applications so the bloaty frameworks are fine: most computers with 1Gb of RAM and a disk of 200GB wouldn't notice if such a framework is present and the speed of the user interface is usually more than fast enough: very often it is the speed of the database server or the Internet connection to the Web server that is the real determining factor; even interpreted script code is often very fast on a modern computer; the bloaty frameworks are from now on usually part of the operating system in any case: their advantage is that they are standardised and progressively maintained and should provide standard system wide library routines with thousands of users; The future of programming will very likely be using Web interfaces and Web services: even recent industrial multiuser interfaces are often Intranet Web browser GUI's: these are not as easy to develop in Win32 as they are in DotNet/AspNet, even if the latter are 'bloated'; If clients are interested in multiplatform applications, they often go for Java which has a HUGE user base which has been integrated into the professional working scene for years: I haven't seen a single job offer for non Delphi Pascal in Italy in the last eight months. I agree that Delphi is perhaps the best tool for developing Win32, unfortunately that is not in line with the main market demand: its not possible to 'insist' on Pascal; ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michał Woźniak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:01 PM Subject: Re: [delphi-en] Delphi where is now and where it going > > With FPC/Lazarus you get cross-platform code (write once, compile everywhere), > but you don't compile it to some mid-way object/assembly, etc., and hence - > you don't need a bloaty framework (that not so many people actually have > these days) or resources-consuming virtual machine to run it. It's always a > native binary executable file. > > So, "goodies without the baddies", I'd say. > > That's at least one of the reasons to insist on Pascal. > > Cheers > Mike > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Inbox full of spam? Get leading spam protection and 1GB storage with All New Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html > > > > ----------------------------------------------------- > Home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/delphi-en/ > To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/362 - Release Date: 12/06/2006 > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/i7folB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ----------------------------------------------------- Home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/delphi-en/ To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/delphi-en/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

