I am an outside observer of Web development as I don't personally do it either, but interested to find the "best practice tools" to pick up, as its such a promising area for the future. I guess like a lot of Delphi programmers, if we are going to pick up web development (and seems to be the mainstream for the future) we are naturally biased towards something as powerful, great IDE and well designed language as we have been blessed with in Delphi.
* Have heard comments in the past that the best "state of the Art IDE" is some of the Java ones (ie better than Visual Studio or Delphi) * Haven't seen anyone comment on Ruby yet * Web development is certainly an area where the open source and free tools are often equal to or ahead of the commercial tools * Open source tools starting with HTML editing like Kompozer are often well integrated with W3C standards (including validating HTML code). The W3C site is an excellent starting reference for good standards. * Waiting for comments from people like Gary B and others who have done very comprehensive PHP projects, for which there are very extensive frameworks out there. They seem to be able to turn out large systems with ease and speed of development comparable to Delphi, including excellent controls, Ajax, web commerce and ordering modules, and of course as good integration with Firebird as Delphi has. * I had the impression that the various extensions to Firefox (Firebug, Greasemonkey, Javascript viewers, error console etc) have generally been thought to be the best tools for web developers in browsers. Don't know much as don't personally use these much, but being involved on the Firefox development forum I know they are redoing these tools constantly - the View HTML Source etc are getting makeovers at the moment. Latest Firefox is a joy to use btw (V7.0a1 alpha nightly build - yes its 3 versions ahead). All the latest browsers (ie9, Firefox, Opera, Chrome) seem to be rewriting the state of the art constantly which is a great thing. John >>>>> "Jolyon" == Jolyon Smith <jsm...@deltics.co.nz> writes: Jolyon> "Inspect Element" is good for seeing what HTML you or your Jolyon> framework has spat out, but it doesn't help you spit out Jolyon> the right HTML in the first place. I think you're probably using tools like: print "<p>hello</p>"; to write your HTML :-) But on the specifics of checking your HTML: check the W3C validator service. Install Pendule if you're using chrome and such checks are just a click away. -- All the best, Berend de Boer ------------------------------------------------------ Awesome Drupal hosting: https://www.xplainhosting.com/ _______________________________________________ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe _______________________________________________ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe