Andrew McIntyre wrote:
Anyway, what's the trigger for breaching the contract here? If it's
'creation' alone, then rolling that release candidate surely qualifies
as as creation. If it's 'creation and distribution,' well, is posting
the release candidate in a public forum and on a public website (like
one would have to do to vote on it) considered distribution in this
case? I have no idea, because i'm not a lawyer.

I don't either. I will try and get someone here to discuss this with the JCP lawyers and try and get some clarification about 'creation' vs. 'creation and distribution'. I can't see how you can be in trouble for creating a set of bits that nobody has access to, but IANAL.

I guess you have somewhat answered my question from my other email: you must, even temporarily, make the official GA bits available for download, just so we can vote on the release.

Could we remove the download once it's voted on, at least to keep the window of vulnerability to a minimum? I'm not saying that would satisfy the lawyers, but I'd like to know what is possible before we talk to them.

How do we handle this normally, if you create a release candidate with the GA bit set, and then we reject the release. Don't we have the same problem already, with people getting access to a release that looks and smells like an official Apache release but actually isn't?


Or maybe ask Geir, since he's VP of Java Community Process for the
Apache Software Foundation, since similar instances may have come up
fairly recently. [3]


Even if we did ask Geir, he's not the last word on it. I'd rather hear it from the horse's mouth. I or someone else will get back to you.

Thanks for all your input, and your research!

andrew

p.s. I'm assuming there's no TCK for JSR-221.

P.S. I am pretty sure there is, but as I understand it, it just validates the interfaces are there. It's part of the overall TCK for Java SE 6, is my understanding. I am sure Lance will be happy to clarify.


[1] http://www.jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/JSPA2.pdf
[2] http://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/announce/2004/JCP2.6.html
[3] http://www.apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2005/board_minutes_2005_12_21.txt
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