Hi Nik! Great to see this message in my inbox - how are you?
Am Montag, den 10.01.2011, 01:20 +1100 schrieb Nik: [...] > On 1/7/2011 9:45 AM, Christoph Noack wrote: [...] > I have been following the icon discussion, but I didn't want to speak > against the current icon any further because I didn't think it would be > helpful. > I created a *really* quick proposal to demonstrate the "paper-feel" I > mentioned in an earlier post (here; > http://tdf.nikashsingh.com/misc/writer_icon.jpg), > but because the existing icons had so much work already done by > yourself, Bernhard and Ivan, I just thought I'd let it slide so that > progress wasn't hindered. > And I ran out of time to contribute, myself. Oh, don't worry ... same applies for me - although it might look different. But at the moment, the symbolism itself is the "hard nut" that needs to be cracked. > But to be honest, I had a very big problem with the icons because they > didn't resemble documents to me at all. > They looked more like sim-cards or SD-cards for cameras. For me, the > paper/document analogy was lost. Of course, you are totally right - it is an edge case to re-use the symbol, which looks different because it was made to look different (in comparison to the standard sheet metaphor). In my very first draft, I wanted to keep the known metaphor ... But, there have been compelling arguments - for example, that we might use the two release until we have the community branding (if we succeed) to make the TDF symbol more known. After that, it might (visually) step back a bit ... In the decision list, I commented the topic "Use of the LibreOffice document symbol?" this way: * Christoph: That's unsure, since the branding guidelines already state to keep the document symbol as it is (without any modifications within the icons). Thus, I'd propose to use the document symbol for the main LibreOffice icon, but not for the document / template icons. * Bernhard: The re-use of the symbol would greatly increase the visibility of the document symbol representing LibreOffice. Implicit decision (by going forward on the mailing list without veto): Use the document symbol for the icons. This decision may be re-visited for the next releases of LibreOffice. Personally, I'm currently fine with it ... although I'd like to go back to standard symbols in the long-run. > But your most recent proposal, for the template icon; > (http://picasaweb.google.com/noack.christoph/LibreOffice#5558854821889918786) > is simply PERFECT. The simple change of making the document WHITE again > addresses ALL my concerns. > I absolutely LOVE the way that large white+blue binder icon looks > (bottom left corner). > > I hope you would consider making all the icons White in the center with > a coloured border (corresponding with the application). > The multiple paper colours of the different icons currently don't look > very ... consistent, or sophisticated. > I think that between the coloured border and the symbolic "contents" of > the "pages", users will be able to differentiate file types. > It might be just me, but the current approach of flooding each icon with > one main colour seems a bit, for lack of a better word, insulting. > As if to suggest users aren't capable of differentiating between more > subtle variations. ;-) Nik, you know that one finally ends up with spending hours in front of the screen when working on such stuff ... and I don't consider myself to be neutral when looking at it after such a day. So, let's give it a try! I've made some small corrections to the icons, but I've kept a bit color in the lower region of the icons. That (from my point-of-view) ensures that the "contrast change" isn't that strong. Here is the original version: http://picasaweb.google.com/noack.christoph/LibreOffice#5558854821889918786 Here is the refined version: http://picasaweb.google.com/noack.christoph/LibreOffice#5560329076596107730 Opinion(s)? > But that is just my opinion. I pay too much attention to these details =) > I LOVE the template (binder) icon. Great stuff Christoph! Oh, thanks a lot ... but really, I'm just jumping in because we miss a "pro" here :-) Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***