Hi Cedric, hi Alex, all! @ Cedric: I had to moderate your mail.
Hey, a great step forward :-) I'd like to add some thoughts and information that has been collected some time ago. Am Mittwoch, den 22.02.2012, 09:11 +0100 schrieb Cedric Bosdonnat: > On Tue, 2012-02-21 at 17:09 -0200, Olivier Hallot wrote: > > Em 21-02-2012 14:41, Alexander Wilms escreveu: [...] > > > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Templates_and_documents_rework > > > > ...has the merit to open the discussion on the actual stupid template > > management dialog/menus... 10 years of LibreOffice and I am still > > confused by the twisted mind that designed it. I must have missed > > something really basic all this time. Why on earth do we have to deal > > with address book in organizing templates? Why acess files in the New > > templates dialog? Some years ago, there has been an effort within the OpenOffice.org project to improve the template handling situation. Although it might be a bit outdated now, I think it would be a very valuable resource for further information. http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Feature_-_Templates Please also note the archive file at the bottom of the page which contains screenshots of various applications offering templates. Alex, I have printed out those wiki page long time ago and added some usability related comments. If you understand German, I can send you a PDF of those pages ... any interest? Furthermore, there should be some usage data available for that dialog ... from OOo times. > > Keep going. That will be a major hit for 3.6 > > I had in mind to change that sooner or later... just a matter of getting > some time to do the changes ;) > > What I had in mind is pretty close to the mockup on the wiki... thought > I wanted to: > * Have this dialog instead of File > New menu > * Have the blank documents in that dialog too > * Some tag-sorting feature on the templates > * Mix all online and local templates in the same dialog for it to be > transparent to the user. > * I would have tried to show the tags on a list / tree on the side of > the dialog, and wouldn't have used tabs to separate the applications: > for it to replace File > New submenu it needs to provide quick access to > at least the blank files creation. I would like to add another thought. I notice recent changes (in the master) / proposals (in Bugzilla) for e.g. the About dialog. It would be a pity if we miss this chance for harmonization ... so maybe we could create a "reference" layout that could be reused. Here an example how this could look like (differnt theming, different product, different windows ... but however): http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User:ChristophNoack/Drafts/WelcomeCenter_2010 > For the connection to the templates repository, I'ld love to see > something using the CMIS protocol as this could allow us to easily > plug-in to any entreprise shared templates repository (or the LO online > templates someday when it'll support CMIS protocol). ++1 :-) Alex, given the very good feedback and the additional thoughts ... wouldn't it be helpful to add a whiteboard page in the wiki to collect such proposals / requirements? Could you please do that? Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted