Libre Office has design guidelines and you should stick to following those
ones instead of basing your contributions in design guidelines from other
software.

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Roland Spitzlinger <r.spitzlin...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Samuel,
>
> I love to get my hands dirty. Just give me some time and I’ll send you
> some mockups. Obviously I believe the numbers sidebar is really well
> crafted, meaning, I will base my work on that. If that's too close to the
> apple UI, please let me know.
> Apart from that I tend to follow the excellent elementary HIG.
>
> Best wishes,
> Roland
>
> Am 04.12.2015 um 14:37 schrieb Samuel Mehrbrodt <samuel.mehrbr...@cib.de>:
>
> > Hi Roland,
> >
> > thanks for the screenshots.
> > Is there a chance you could get your hands dirty and try to improve the
> sidebar in calc yourself? We could lend you a hand if you like.
> >
> > Or do you have specific suggestions, what should be improved? If you do
> not plan to work on things yourself, it would most likely be picked up by
> someone if you break your suggestions down into small, concrete enhancement
> suggestions filed in bugzilla.
> >
> > Thanks a lot
> > Samuel
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: Roland Spitzlinger <r.spitzlin...@gmail.com>
> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. November 2015 16:05
> > An: Samuel Mehrbrodt
> > Cc: design@global.libreoffice.org
> > Betreff: Re: [libreoffice-design] libre office vs numbers
> >
> > Hi Samuel,
> >
> > thanx for your reply.
> > I put the screenshots in the following folder:
> >
> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B5CZFCSGix1ebmx2VlRSZWZkLXM&usp=sharing
> >
> > Please also note the links to the individual screenshots below.
> >
> > best wishes,
> > roland
> >
> > Am 26.11.2015 um 15:46 schrieb Samuel Mehrbrodt <samuel.mehrbr...@cib.de
> >:
> >
> >> Hi Roland,
> >>
> >> many thanks for your suggestions, they are good points.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately this mailing list has stripped off your attachments -
> could you please upload them somewhere else and post links to them?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Samuel
> >> ________________________________________
> >> Von: Roland Spitzlinger <r.spitzlin...@gmail.com>
> >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 25. November 2015 23:37
> >> An: design@global.libreoffice.org
> >> Betreff: [libreoffice-design] libre office vs numbers
> >>
> >> hello everyone,
> >>
> >> first of all thanx for your great effort!
> >> I have been using libre office for many years and it has improved a lot
> since then.
> >>
> >> I have been working on user interfaces in the past and I just thought
> you might appreciate a few thoughts that could potentially help improve the
> libre office UI. In fact, I have done a little comparison of libre office
> calc and numbers (osx). Based on that, here are a few suggestions:
> >>
> >> divide options into managable groups. do not show all options at the
> same time.
> >> instead organize them in sections
> >> work with tabs
> >> avoid strong color contrasts. the human eye isn’t made for it.
> >> avoid black on white background, use grey shades instead (dark grey on
> light grey is highly recommended)
> >> avoid bold text in strong colors such as black and red
> >> avoid colors in general, unless used to highlight something. this helps
> the user to focus on the important matters.
> >> only use colors to highlight the current state of a text/cell (e.g. the
> checkbox „Tausendertrennzeichen“ should be in color if it is active for the
> marked cell, otherwise it should be grey)
> >> do use colors for color options, obviously.
> >> combine related buttons in groups (see e.g. the button group
> „Ausrichtung“) this way the UI is less clustered and easier to comprehend.
> >> hide unnecessary design elements. as we all know, good design is as
> little design as possible.
> >> only show indicators when they are actually needed (see the two
> screenshots with color option below)
> >> avoid additional external formating menus with ever more options.
> instead work with tabs and control buttons within the sidebar framework
> (see last screenshot below)
> >> avoid scrollbars
> >> if they seem necessary, then this is a sign that there is already too
> much information
> >> if a scrollbar is needed, hide it until the user actually starts
> scrolling
> >>
> >> hope this is of any help. If you have any questions go ahaid.
> >>
> >> In any case, thanx again for your effort!
> >>
> >> best wishes,
> >> roland
> >>
> >>
> >> comparison of formating panels:
> >> numbers vs. libre office
> >>
> > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5CZFCSGix1eMkNnNV9qMUtEcW8
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> While libre office shows all options in one place, numbers breakes them
> down into logical and more comprenhensible sections.
> >>
> > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5CZFCSGix1eczNSSk8yUFRfeUk
> > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5CZFCSGix1eR0Fyck9IZTFPS1U
> > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5CZFCSGix1eWG9OUUpnRkNWbnM
> > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5CZFCSGix1eWTB2OGtMUi1ZQ28
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> color option:
> >> mouse over color option:
> >>
> > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5CZFCSGix1ebnU4M05CZDI5c1E
> >
> > additional options:
> > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5CZFCSGix1eUnRyM3R5Z0ZYZ0E
> >>
> >>
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