On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Sam Thursfield <sss...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Felipe Contreras > <felipe.contre...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Andy Wingo <wi...@pobox.com> wrote: >>> On Fri 19 Aug 2011 13:33, Felipe Contreras <felipe.contre...@gmail.com> >>> writes: >>> >>>> That's a reasonable alternative. How about "pleased"? Any other people >>>> have an opinion? >>> >>> You present yourself as reasonable by adjusting on the small points, >>> but you ignore the feedback of greater importance. >>> >>> My opinion is that you are not the right person to lead an effort to >>> gather feedback on GNOME. >> >> Is there anyone in the universe able to create a user survey worthy of >> GNOME? Can you convince him of doing so? > > Gathering feedback does not necessarily require an online user survey.
Indeed, do you have a better suggestion? > As stated, for a project which currently targets, among others, users > who do not care what parts of their operating system can be labelled > "GNOME" a survey is not a very reliable way of gathering feedback. > > Have you ever tried to explain, to a person who doesn't have an > interest in software, what GNOME actually is? Again, do you have a suggestion to get feedback in a more useful way? >> In the meantime, this is the best that we have. I will continue >> listening for constructive feedback, but comments such as "this is not >> good", "you are doing it wrong", "it's impossible", lead to nowhere. >> >> Besides, as Alan Cox said, it doesn't have to be perfect, like >> software, we can learn from the mistakes of the 2011 survey, and make >> a better one for 2012. Can we not? > > I urge you to consider the fact that if the majority of people > subscribed to desktop-devel-list don't have faith in idea of an online > user survey, an online user survey is probably not going to much have > effect on the views of the people who contribute to the discussions on > desktop-devel-list, and since most of the GNOME community read > desktop-devel-list you can probably extend this to all of the other > GNOME mailing lists and IRC channels as well. So the status quo, where there are absolutely no numbers whatsoever is preferred. Any attempt to gather quantifiable feedback is discouraged. IOW; the GNOME community does not care about what users have to say at all. -- Felipe Contreras _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list