On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 1:38 AM, Allan Day <allanp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Adam Dingle <a...@yorba.org> wrote: > > I realized recently to my surprise and dismay that the compact view has > been > > removed from Nautilus: > > Adam, if you wanted to discuss this change, you could have done so on > the bug or on the Nautilus mailing list, or by asking on > #gnome-design. I would have been happy to have given you some > background on why the decision was made. > > Jon has been doing some fantastic work on Nautilus recently. It was > getting very little - if any - developer attention and he has stepped > up to make dramatic improvements, including addressing long-standing > complaints. I'm really excited about the next release of Nautilus > thanks to his work; instead of having no movement whatsoever, we are > going to have lots of great improvements to talk about. > > There has been a bunch of discussion around these changes. Not the > mailing list approach that you seem to want, but the existing Nautilus > maintainers have been involved and a range of design people have been > consulted. I personally agreed with removing compact view - I think > it's a good change. > > ... > > I'd like to end on a constructive note. I propose that GNOME adopt the > > following policy. No major feature will be removed from a core GNOME > > application before a discussion has occurred on a public mailing list > such > > as this one (or on a Bugzilla bug, with a prominent mailing list > > announcement pointing to the bug in question). I also propose that all > such > > feature removals that have occurred in the 3.6 development cycle be > reverted > > until such discussion has occured . > > I strongly disagree with that suggestion. I don't think it would be > workable, and I don't think it would make GNOME a better place to > work. There is still time to discuss changes that have been made; we > don't need to wrap ourselves up in policies. Allan, thanks for your level-headed response. In retrospect, I think the tone of my original post was too dramatic. I got upset when I saw a longstanding favorite feature disappear and I made some sweeping suggestions that may have gone too far. I apologize for the dramatic tone and will avoid it in the future. I remain seriously concerned that removing Nautilus's compact view was a mistake, but as you have and others have pointed out this is not really the right place to discuss that. I'll begin a discussion on the Nautilus mailing list and will look forward to discussing this more there. More broadly, I also remain concerned that large changes are being made to core GNOME apps by a small set of people (basically the design team plus the maintainers of those apps) without enough input or feedback from users of those apps. You're probably right that a sweeping policy change is not the way to address this. But I do think it's a problem that needs to be addressed. adam
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