i'm not against a11y. just pointed out that if it will be disabled by default (and not working) no reason to keep these packages
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Peter Korn <Peter.Korn at sun.com> wrote: > Hi Andras, > > I'll leave it to Willie Walker to provide additional detail here as needed. > > Fundamentally, folks are working hard to fix this bug in the packagemanager > GUI. Separately, the question of whether accessibility is on/off by default > for *all* users is distinct from whether an individual user can turn it on > for *their* default use so that it is on whenever they log in. Or in this > case, when they go to install their desktop (which means it must be on the > LiveCD). If they cannot have an accessible desktop until they have > downloaded additional packages, then we have a rather serious chicken/egg > problem. As has been pointed out in that (and/or perhaps related) > thread(s), the command line is also an option for users who want to download > additional packages (and need accessibility support in the case that this > bug isn't fixed). > > > Regards, > > Peter > > check this thread: > http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/jds-review/2008-September/003151.html > > On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 9:37 PM, Peter Korn <Peter.Korn at sun.com> wrote: > > > Andras, > > laca, i read in a different thread that a11y isn't enabled by default > so why to include that packages ? > > > Accessible install is part of what we're planning for 2008.11. The blind > (or whatever) user can turn accessibility on with a keyboard gesture and > have a talking install from their talking desktop that they've booted to > from the LiveCD. We really can't have that work if we are missing the > accessibility packages on the LiveCD... > > > Regards, > > Peter > > On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Laszlo (Laca) Peter > <Laszlo.Peter at sun.com> wrote: > > > Dave, > > This is gonna be depressing, but the size of the GNOME packages > with the 2.24 update is expected to increase by about 11MB > (compressed!) Attached is a StarOffice spreadsheed (and a pdf > export for easier reading). > > It looks likes like firefox3 accounts for almost 1/3 of the > size increase. > > There is 1 new required package, SUNWlibtasn1 but we should > also consider SUNWespeak and SUNWgnome-a11y-speech-espeak for > better accessibility support. > > Laca > > On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 15:10 -0400, Dave Miner wrote: > > > Filters are not yet implemented. > > > > One possible outcome here is that we ask IPS to kick up the priority of > implementing filters to help solve the problem. > > Anyway, thanks for digging in, Laca. We can certainly ensure that stuff > that's split out into separate packages stays out. For the moment, no > need to do anything, I'm waiting on some data about l10n and other > things before putting together revised recommendations. Are there any > other significant changes in the 2.23.x packages that we need to account > for? > > > _______________________________________________ > desktop-discuss mailing list > desktop-discuss at opensolaris.org > > > > > > > > > -- Andy http://blog.sartek.net
