Doug Scott wrote:
> Stephen Lau wrote:
>   
>> Doug Scott wrote:
>>     
>>> If they are hacking away and have no community involvement, then why 
>>> should they be a Core Contributor? Are you wanting to encourage the 
>>> old Sun practice of throwing contributions over the wall when and if 
>>> they feel like it. Encouraging the Sun developers out of the closet 
>>> and into community involvement is long overdue.
>>>       
>> Ignoring my juvenile desire to make jokes about coming out of the 
>> closet for a second...
>> I don't think people being a contributor or core contributor 
>> necessarily reflect open source practices.  Arguably, many of Sun's 
>> Desktop QA team devote countless hours to improving upstream open 
>> source code bases (GNOME or Mozilla being the obvious examples), 
>> filing bugs in their bugzillas, etc.  They may be quiet on the lists, 
>> but they're there - and they certainly aren't throwing stuff over the 
>> wall and skulking away.
>> So I agree with Ghee that they should be recognised for their work - 
>> and if they want recognition *as well* as the additional 
>> responsibilities of helping to lead and set direction for the Desktop 
>> Community - then "Core Contributor" is fine by me.
>>     
> If they want Core Contributor, the first thing to do is to make sure 
> people in the community know you exist. It should not be the first email 
> you send is asking for Core Contributor.
>   
  I cannot disagree with you here :)
>   
>>   But if they don't want to play the active role in leading the 
>> Desktop Community, then "Contributor" should be the more appropriate 
>> role.
>>     
> I do think it is overdue that many Sun Employee's who have been 
> contributing through Sun or an external community should be given 
> recognition
> for their work, especially if they do a lot of it in their own time. 
> Unless they have been a visible part of the OpenSolaris.Org community, I 
> feel it is a bit much to be considered a core contributor though. If all 
> their only communication is upstream, then a grant upstream is more 
> appropriate.
>   
   I bet to be differed here, if an individual has done significant 
works primarily
upstream and may be lesser here in OpenSolaris for effectiveness reason; 
still want to
be part of and recognised by this community. We should not tell them, 
get your
recognition elsewhere. That's a primary reason why people work in F/OSS.
At best, we can demand more evidence of contribution down-stream as well 
as up-stream.
  We should be more conducive in better recognition of people's 
contributions one
way or another, the reasoning behind the categories included in the 
guidelines.

-Ghee
> Doug
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