Hi Alan, Erwann,

Compiz is very attractive for accessibility because of the 
highly-performant magnification it offers, as well as the plug-in 
architecture that enables us to develop lots of cool and nifty features 
for folks with not only vision impairments but also cognitive 
impairments.  Compiz sucks for accessibility because the window 
decorations, etc., that they paint don't expose ATK/AT-SPI they way 
Metacity does, nor even is full keyboard operation there in all cases.

Separate from those pros/cons, there is not 100% agreement that basing 
our future on Compiz is the right way to go (though my sense is that the 
ranks of those inclined that way are growing).  Arguments against basing 
our magnification future on Compiz include the fact that it isn't 
pervasive yet, that folks want magnification functionality on 
older/low-end video systems, and that Metacity isn't clearly deprecated.

So...  I would very much like to see Compiz' accessibility issues with 
the window-manager portion fixed, and then to see accelerated work on 
the use of Compiz eZoom as the magnification engine for Orca (in tandem 
with user testing and evaluation).  After that occurs, I am hopeful that 
the majority of magnification users will conclude that Compiz is our 
best (though perhaps not only) magnification solution going forward, and 
we can further coalesce around it across GNOME desktops.


Peter

> Erwann Chenede wrote:
>   
>> Hi Brian,
>>
>> Brian Cameron wrote:
>>     
>>> Before I enabled Compiz, I was able to switch between the bottom panel
>>> and the desktop by hitting Ctrl-Alt-Tab.  This is needed to run the
>>> GNOME desktop for many users with accessibility needs.  Blind users, for
>>> example, need to use this keybinding to get focus to go to the bottom
>>> edge panel, to navigate the Application menu, etc.
>>>   
>>>       
>> Note that compiz is not accessible. Metacity is the preferred wm for the 
>> desktop accessibility solution.
>>     
>
> I'm not sure I'd go that far - I know the accessibility team is very
> interested in some compiz features, like the zooming support, and it
> may end up being the preferred wm for people who need those accessibility
> modes and not others.
>
>   

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