On Sun, 2008-05-25 at 11:09 +0100, Peter Tribble wrote: > On 5/24/08, Moinak Ghosh <moinakg at gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 3:04 AM, Rich Teer > <rich.teer at rite-group.com> wrote: > >> On Fri, 23 May 2008, Peter Tribble wrote: > >> > >>> The one thing I still miss (after trying again to > remove /usr/dt/bin > >>> from my path) is 'sdtimage -snapshot', for which I've still to > find > >>> a satisfactory replacement. > >> > >> AGreed; GNOME's snapshot tool is somewhat wanting, especially in > the > >> area of snapshots of random screen areas. > >> > >>> > http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/desktop-discuss/2007-February/008966.html > > > > You can use GIMP or Ksnapshot for that. I have rarely if ever > used > > the GNOME snapshot tool. > > sdtimage starts up in significantly less than a second, even from > cold. > A cold start of gimp is in the 10-20s range; even a warm start is well > over 5 seconds before you can actually think about what you're going > to do. > > The gimp solution is fine if you're wanting to end up in gimp, but > otherwise > is far too slow. > > ksnapshot is definitely a possible solution, but presumes you have > KDE, > which isn't always the case.
Putting on my airchair developers hat for a moment; there is no reason why it should load quickly given that the plugins should dynamically load when a feature is required rather than initialising them at 'boot up'. Maybe there is a willing hacker to make that a possibility. As for what I think; CDE is dead, but going for GNOME was stupid, Sun should have bought out trolltech, made the Qt kit BSD/X11 or even CDDL - then made KDE the default desktop. Atleast we would have a decent collection of applications that didn't royally suck when it came to integration between the desktop environment, the application and the services the desktop environment provides. It seemed like, to me, GNOME was a dart board decision coupled with a 'we don't want to invest any real money into this project' - as if actually providing a decent desktop environment was something Sun was reluctant to actually do. Matthew
