On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 21:20 +0100, Kurt Pfeifle wrote:
> Dave Neary wrote:
> 
> > most people, I would guess, don't really want choice. 
> 
> [...]
> 
> > I'd be much happier
> > seeing us focus on freedom and community as the core message.
> 
> So "most people, you would guess, do really want freedom and community"?
> More so than choice?
> 
> Hmmm...
> 
> I'd *like* to live in a world like that. But instead, I live in a sub-
> world like that, where most do indeed appreciate those values. But the
> world outside our communities (note the plural) looks different to me.

I'm not a fan of this conversation at all, but I just thought I'd
mention an interesting comment from The Edge's 2007  annual question. I
don't remember who it was answering the question "what is one thing
you've changed your mind about?". the core of the answer was coming to a
conclusion that there is such a thing as human nature, and that it seeks
cooperation, altruism and peace *within* communities, but is
antagonistic, violent and aggressive *between* communities.

Clearly, according to this view, if you want more people to share the
peace & harmony of your community, they need to be a part of it. Of
course, too many people sometimes destroys communities too.

--p


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