Noch so ein Zitat von Microsoft-Chef Steve Balmer:

*"What we [Novell and Microsoft] agreed, which is true, is we'll continue
to try to grow Windows share at the expense of Linux. That's kind of our
job. But to the degree that people are going to deploy Linux, we want Suse
Linux to have the highest percent share of that, because only a customer
who has Suse Linux actually has paid properly for the use of intellectual
property from Microsoft. And we took a quota, you could say, to help them
sell so much Suse Linux. That's part of the deal. We are willing to do the
same deal with Red Hat and other Linux distributors, it's not an exclusive
thing. But after a few years of working on this problem, Novell actually
saw the business opportunity, because there's so many customers who say,
'Hey look, we don't want problems. We don't want any intellectual property
problem or anything else. There's just a variety of workloads where we,
today, feel like we want to run Linux. Please help us Microsoft and please
work with the distributors to solve this problem, don't come try to license
this individually.' So customer push drove us to where we got."*



*Zu lesen auf:
http://techrights.org/2012/08/13/future-hardware-ruined-by-novell/
<http://techrights.org/2012/08/13/future-hardware-ruined-by-novell/> *

-Steve Ballmer <http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/archives/108806.asp>



On 12 February 2014 12:04, Dave <davepo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Altes Zitat von ZDNet 2011 (
> http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/microsoft-gets-novells-patents-rights-but-must-share-them-with-open-source-software/8713
> ):
>
> Microsoft gets Novell's Patents rights but must share them with
> Open-Source Software
>
> Summary: This is not the deal Microsoft wanted, but it's what the
> Department of Justice insisted on.
>
>
> Oder:
>
>
> von Financial Times:
> http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/9a614062-f670-11df-846a-00144feab49a.html#axzz2t6TBxPrW
>
> Ts&Cs <http://www.ft.com/servicestools/help/terms> and Copyright 
> Policy<http://www.ft.com/servicestools/help/copyright>for more detail. Email
> ftsales.supp...@ft.com to buy additional rights.
> http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/9a614062-f670-11df-846a-00144feab49a.html#ixzz2t6UKblOr
>
> Microsoft helps seal $2.2bn sale of Novell to Attachmate
>
> By Richard Waters in San Francisco and Helen Thomas in New York
>
> Microsoft <http://markets.ft.com/tearsheets/performance.asp?s=us:MSFT>has 
> stepped in to help seal the $2.2bn sale of
> Novell <http://markets.ft.com/tearsheets/performance.asp?s=us:NOVL>, a
> struggling US software company, in the latest sign of the latter's
> strategic significance to some of the industry's biggest players.
>
> The world's leading software company said on Tuesday that it had put
> together a consortium of other technology companies to inject $450m into
> Novell, in return for carving out part of its portfolio of intellectual
> property rights.
>
>
> Oder http://techrights.org/2012/08/13/future-hardware-ruined-by-novell/:
>
> We criticised Red Hat for what it did 
> [1<http://techrights.org/2012/07/20/red-hat-does-not-want-to-defend-its-position-on-uefi/>,
> 2 <http://techrights.org/2012/07/25/loss-makes-disruption/>, 
> 3<http://techrights.org/2012/07/05/uefi-criticism/>,
> 4 <http://techrights.org/2012/07/12/non-free-boot-and-debian/>, 
> 5<http://techrights.org/2012/06/13/red-hat-closed/>,
> 6 <http://techrights.org/2012/06/19/microsoft-talking-points-on-uefi/>, 
> 7<http://techrights.org/2012/06/09/uefi-mistake/>]
> about UEFI <http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/UEFI> and now we shall
> criticise the Microsoft-funded 
> SUSE<http://techrights.org/2011/07/25/another-suse-soft-bribe/>as well. They 
> just never learn, do they? Pamela
> Jones helps remind 
> us<http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20120810171601102>of what 
> Microsoft does to so-called 'partners'. To quote: "Novell has
> followed through, as it said it would, and has filed a notice of appeal in
> its litigation against Microsoft over antitrust issues from WordPerfect."
>
> Why does Novell run back into the same cave that had it devoured in the
> past? And why did SUSE not stand up to Microsoft? Or even opted for the
> Canonical approach (which is the lesser of the two evils)? SUSE does not
> even like Unity all that 
> much<http://www.marques.so/2012/08/urban-myth-unity-on-opensuse/>.
> It seems not to follow Canonical's footsteps. SUSE's business model is to
> use Microsoft to take away from Red Hat while passing Microsoft a share of
> its gains.
>
>
> Aus den paar mittlerweile ziemlich alten Zitaten geht hervor, dass
> Microsoft an vielen Projekten seine Finger drin hat. Als damiliger
> leidenschaftlicher WordPerfect-Anwender weiß ich noch aus eigener
> Erfahrung, wie Novell das gute Produkt marketingmäßig in den Boden
> wirtschaftete.
>
> Die Aggressivität der Libre-Office-Marketing und von Teilen der
> Libre-Office-Community sind mir vom ersten Tag extrem übel aufgestoßen.
> Ihre Sprache ist nicht die gängige Sprache von leidenschaftlichen Freizeit-
> oder berufsmäßigen Programmierern, die zurecht stolz sein können und sollen
> auf ein gutes Produkt.
>
>
>
>
> 2014-02-12 10:21 GMT+01:00 Jörg Schmidt <joe...@j-m-schmidt.de>:
>
>
>> > From: Jürgen Schmidt [mailto:jogischm...@gmail.com]
>>
>> > Alles andere ergibt sich von selbst mit der Zeit oder auch
>> > nicht. Warum
>> > also sinnlos bemühen und Zeit verschwenden?
>>
>> Wenig wird sich ergeben wenn masm nicht zielgerichtet etwas tut.
>>
>> Verschwendete Zeit sehe ich darin auch nicht wenn es AOO insgesamt
>> betrifft, denn AOO ist Teil von Apache, Apache hingegen eine Organisation
>> die sich aus ihrem Selbstverständnis heraus nicht nur auf reine
>> Softwareentwicklung beschränken darf sondern auch Überzeugungsarbeit für
>> freie Software leisten und Lobbyismus für freie Software betreiben muss wo
>> das nötig ist.
>>
>> Der Hauptgegner dabei mag propritäre Software sein, wo jedoch die TDF dem
>> Gedanken freier Software hintertreibt und _Verantwortungsträger_ der TDF
>> beginnen anerkannte Mitglieder von Apache zu bashen ist für mich das Maß
>> dessen überschritten wo wir noch schweigen sollten.
>>
>> Wer Mitglieder unserer Apache-Gemeinschaft als "Feind" beschimpft [1] dem
>> sollte klar sein das er selbst auch an diesen Maßstäben gemessen werden
>> wird.
>>
>>
>> [1]
>> Z.B.
>> http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/msg06246.html
>>
>>
>> Gruß
>> Jörg
>>
>>
>> projektinterne Diskussionen der deutschsprachigen AOO-Community
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